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JaneyJ
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Posts: 56
Grandad: John Parkinson
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Hi Cathay,
No probs, I'm enjoying myself 
Never thought of glass bead maker making glass eyes, though it does make sense, I think it would take some craftmenship to match colours etc.
Well not having much luck with old Arthur, in fact he is nearly as bad as some of mine  .
What I did find on the Mormon web site on the IGI, was some birth details, not sure if it is your lot, there is definitely something odd about Arthur's parents and can't figure it out yet.
Here goes:
Arthur Robey: b: 04/07/1858, christened 13/12/1865 at St Dunstan, Stepney, London
Father: Matthew Robey, Mother Elizabeth. I wonder why such a long time before christening???
I've not been able to find a marriage entry or any more children to this couple....but I did find these details following your lead on Matthew Lough.
Matthew Bell Lough marr' Elizabeth Harriet Elliot on the 18/12/1843 at St Dunstan, Stepney.
Children:
Ann Bell Lough b: 24/01/1830...and...Betsey Thomas Lough 24/01/1830 St Mary's Lambeth, twins again...
Leonora Laura Lough, b: 12/11/1838 ch: 28/12/1838 St Matthew, Bethnal Green.
Isabel Lough b: 24/07/1847, ch: 22/08/1847 St Dunstan Stepney.
So you see they are an elusive lot and lots of research to find what really matches. I'll have another look tomorrow, in the meantime do please ask if you want me to look anything up for you, I think I would be going mad if I didn't have ancestry, I use it nearly every day to do double checks.
Speak soon Jane.
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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JaneyJ
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Posts: 56
Grandad: John Parkinson
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Good Morning Cathay,
I think I've cracked it, I've found a link between Matthew Lough and Arthur Roby, see what you think?
1851 Census, 40 Durham St, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets
Matthew B Lough Head, Married, age: 33, occ Clerk in Newspaper Office, b: Gillingham Kent.
Elizabeth H Lough Wife, age: 28, b: Barns Sussex
Isabel Dau, age: 3 b: Stepney
Elizabeth Dau age: 1 b: Bethnal Green
Cowen Shotter Cousin age 18, occ Clerk, b: Sittingbourn Kent
1851 Census Tower Hamlets
Elizabeth Robey Head , Married, age: 34 (?) occ: Milliner, b: Yarmouth Norfolk
Elizabeth Robey Dau, age:1, b: Limehouse Middlesex
Sarah Robey Sister-in-Law age: 43.
with me so far 
1861 Census, Fairfield Rd, Bow, Tower Hamlets, Ref: RG 9/303.
Matthew Lough Head, Widow, age: 43, occ: Commercial Clerk, b: Greenhith Kent.
Ellen Lough Dau, age:16 b:Stepney
Isabel Lough Dau, age:13 b: Stepney
Elizabeth Lough Dau, age:11 b: Bethnal Green
Fredrick Lough Son, age:6 b: Hornsey
Un-Named Natural Son, age:2 b: Bow
Elizabeth E Robey Visitor, age:11, b: Poplar.
Stick with it....
1871 Census Tower Hamlets Ref: RG 10/562
Elizabeth Robey Head, Unmarried, age:37, occ Berlin Wool Worker, b: Yarmouth Norfolk
Elizabeth Robey Dau, Unmarried, age 20, occ Berlin Wool Worker, b: Mile End Middlesex.
Arthur Robey Son, age:12 b: Bow
I was able to find Matthews children in 1871, but no sign of Matthew.
Now my best guess!!!! is that Matthew and Elizabeth Robey had a little fling, and produced our Arthur?
And that in 1861 Arthur and his sister Elizabeth were visiting Matthew and his family, probably OK since his wife is dead 
Well thats my theory, though I have been known to jump the gun....
Jane.
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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JaneyJ
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Grandad: John Parkinson
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Hi Cathay,
OK, give me a couple of hours......lol
Jane
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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jaytoot
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Posts: 241
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi again,
1881 census London Bromley
30 Wilson street
James Higgins, age 37, Stevedores laborour, B. Buley Hampshire
Margeret wife, age 28, Machinist, B. Surrey Borough.
Elizabeth D, age 4 B. Middlesex Poplar
Eleanor M, age 1 B. Middlesex Poplar
1891 Census Bromley London
99 Barbazon street.
James Higgins, age 48, general laborour, B. Southampton Hampshire
Margeret wife, age 39, , B. Westminster London.
Elizabeth D, age 14 B. London Poplar
Eleanor M, age 11, Scholar B. London Bromley
James, Age 9, Scholar B.London Polar
William, Age 6, Scholar B.London Polar
Emily, Age 2 B.London Polar
Regards,
Jim
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james - kent and surrey
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jaytoot
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi again,
Still with the Higgins family.
1901 census London Bromley
124 Leven Road.
James Higgins, age 48, Cook, B. Southampton Hampshire
James, Age 19, General laborour B.London Polar
William H, Age 18, Dock Laborour B.London Polar
William seems to have aged a bit as in 1891 census he was 6. Freebmd has a birth that would fit in 1895 Poplar, William Henry Higgins.
No sign of the rest of the family.
Regards,
Jim
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jaytoot
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Cathy,
Re Ethel Theresa, we need somone with access to the 1911 census because she is in West Ham in 1911 with Eleanor her mum. So it would be nice to see if she had brothers or sisters, or perhaps you know that already.
WILLEY FAMILY
1881 census London St Georges Hanover Sq Belgrave
24 Pulford street
John Willey age 44, Painter, B. Highlaver Essex
Jane wife age 41, Domestic, B. Epping Essex
John Lowen son age 15, Telegraph messenger, B. Lambeth Surrey
Charles A son age 4, B. Highlaver Essex
Free Bmd has a marriage of John Willey to Jane Lowen - Sy Georges Hanover Sq June Q. 1874.
Regards,
Jim
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jaytoot
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Now I feel like Billy no mates!
Anyway
possible family for John Willey
1851 Census
12 Ecclestone Mews (not sure i read this correct)
John Willey age 37, Coachman, B. Margret Boothing Essex.
Mary Ann wife age 34, B. Loughton Essex
John son, age 13, B. Loughton Essex
Emily daughter, age 11, B Leytonstone Essex.
George son, age 9. B Leytonstone Essex.
Adeline daughter, age 7, B Leytonstone Essex.
Mary Ann daughter age 5, B. Kentish Town.
William son age 3, B. St Georges Hanover Sq.
Rebecca daughter age 1. B. St Georges Hanover Sq.
susannah Willingale(?) unmarried, age 35 visitor, Born Loughton Essex
1841 Census Essex Low Leyton
Leyton street
John Willey age 25 Occupation M S ( from a check on the internet i think this means male servant).
Mary Ann wife age 25
John son, age 4
Emily daughter, age 1
all born in same county.
Regards again,
Jim
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JaneyJ
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Posts: 56
Grandad: John Parkinson
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Hi Cathay,
Well my couple of hours turned into 12hours, not enough weetabix Cathay a weekend in hospital, I do not recommend kidney stone's people  . pain you would not believe, but would recommend the morphine, looooooovly stuff.
I found the census reports you found jaytoot, and was taken into hospital before I could post them...honest so our research seems to agree.
I found one more I'm not sure of though, 1901 John Willey aged 65, married, General Laborer??. He was in the union Workhouse in Hanover Square. Now I'm not positive about this one as his wife was not in the Workhouse, I looked at every individual, and I could not find her anywhere else, so some more research is needed on that one.
It looked to me Cathay as though young Charles was an only child, unless......his father was married before?. He did marry late.
I also found a birth on the IGI for a John Willey father Charles, and I can't find it anywhere on my desk, I'll keep looking and get back to you.
Aha, found the 41 census I wasn't sure of, just to mix the pot a bit.
1841 High Lever Essex Ref: HO 107/336/7
Charles Wiley age 30, occ Wheelwright
Sarah Wiley age 30,
Eliza Wiley age 10
Elizabeth Wiley age 5
John Wiley age 3
William Wiley age 1
Need to follow Charles up to make sure.
1891 St George Hanover Square, Belgrave, 50 "Monument" Street (I think)
John Willey Head, Age 54, occ House Painter, b: Essex "High Lane"
Jane Willey Wife, age 51, b: Epping
Charles A Willey Son, age 14, occ Office Boy Port. b: Essex "High Lane"
Plus 3 others one a Nephew aged 19, the other 2 were females aged 23 and 44yrs and said to be visitors, I need to study these names a little longer Cathay as the handwriting is really bad, I'll let you know as soon as I've got it.
Jane
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Edinburgh: Parkinson, Young, Richardson, Melrose, Arnott
Lanarkshire: Richardson, Muir, Buchanan, McMurtrie
Dumfieshire: Richardson, Muir.
Travelling Folk: Young, Cunningham, Wilson, Hartley, Knowells, Clark, Sewall, Swales.
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