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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:16 UTC (UK) »

That certainly clarifies the Pier bit Julie, thanks. Why did I not think of looking for a plan?

I am still a bit confused as to why someone's name would be on several panels but no doubt it will all become clear when I am there.

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jen

It's very kind of you to offer and I would very much like to take you up on your offer. My knowledge of the geogaphy of the area is poor so I am not sure if Ieper, West-Vlaanderen is covered by your visit.

If it is then I would love a pic for Walter Ralph 9793 L/C Royal Scots Fusiliers
Cemetery: Perth Cemetery (China Wall)
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=103939

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jen

What a very kind offer.
If you get time, I would love a photo of the following name on the Menin Gate (no known grave)

SCHLOSS, Lionel Ernest
Second Lieutenant
Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)  44th Coy.
Age: 23
Date of Death: 31/07/1917
Panel 56.
Memorial:    YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=921506

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 05 November 09 14:03 UTC (UK) »


It's very kind of you to offer and I would very much like to take you up on your offer. My knowledge of the geogaphy of the area is poor so I am not sure if Ieper, West-Vlaanderen is covered by your visit.


many thanks
Linda

Linda - Ieper is the current spelling of Ypres so yes, it is very much in the area which I shall be visiting. The Perth Cemetery is a few kilometres outside Ypres/Ieper and if I can get there, I most certainly shall do. As you can see, my list of requests is growing quite rapidly. I think I shall be quite busy!

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:38 UTC (UK) »

Photos of all the panels on both the Menin Gate and Thiepval memorial are available free of charge from the good people here:

http://www.britishwargraves.co.uk/index.htm

They have covered quite a few war cemeteries in France and Belgium, so do check if your requirements are here before asking Jen, it may save her some time.

I think you'll find the multiple panel numbers refer to the regiments, so it's a case of looking to see which one your man is on.
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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:48 UTC (UK) »

That looks like a really good site and yes, if I struggle to get round all the places on my list, I shall use it myself. But I am still very happy to see what I can do for RC people . As I am going to be taking my camera with me wherever I go, I might as well use it! Wink

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jen,

I hope that you enjoy your trip.

I'm attaching a copy of one of the pics that I took when we visited Thiepval in 2006, (the 90th Anniversary of the Battle of the Somme). Its a very moving place the visit, - the sheer numbers are almost impossible to comprehend:-(

Romilly.


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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »

Thiepval - is made up of a number of columns, and there are names on, I think, all of the four faces, and certainly three.  The reason for a variety of face numbers for a name is that the list of casualties for a particular Regiment may cover more than one face.  All the faces have the reference number engraved at the base.  Officers are named first and then other ranks, all are in alphabetical order.  For example my grandfather's reference is Pier and Face 2A, 2C and 2D.  He is actually commemmorated on face 2D.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 November 09 22:06 UTC (UK) »

Thank you, yes that does help. I might have been panicking when a name didn't appear where it said it would! At least now I know I have to look at all panels/faces.

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 November 09 22:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jen

I have visited Thiepval and there is a small wall safe within one of the pillars which contains several books with all the soldiers named in alphabetical order, giving their regiment and addresses etc., plus the location on the memorial.
Have attached photo of a very small part of one of the faces.
Take a big handkerchief, I guarantee you will need it.
Jean


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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 06 November 09 00:08 UTC (UK) »

I have visited Thiepval and there is a small wall safe within one of the pillars which contains several books with all the soldiers named in alphabetical order, giving their regiment and addresses etc., plus the location on the memorial.
Each CWGC cemetery has such a 'safe' containing a book giving the names and locations of all the graves etc. There are dozens of cemteries around Ieper.

While there the Flanders Fields museum in the Cloth Hall is well, well worth a visit; and you must attend at the Menin Gate at 8pm on at least one night. The Paschendale museum at Zonnebeke is also very good (unless a coach load of British schoolgirls is there at the same time - as happened on my last visit).  The new display/museum at Tyne Cot is also very good.  Some of the smaller cemeteries are fascinating, I particularly liked the ones in Ploegsteet Wood.

The museum at Sanctuary Wood / Hill 60 is over-priced and neglected but does have trenches, but I do like the very simple Canadian Memorial on Hill 60, but it is where my great-uncle was killed so it has personal connotations.
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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 06 November 09 10:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jen

I hope you're not snowed under with requests, if you have time could you please look for

C B Wolstencroft (Cecil Barrow) Vlamertinghe Military cemetary 15/6/1918
Ref. XV G 5

The directions quite helpfully are on CWGC
"Vlamertinghe New Military Cemetery is located 5 Kms west of Ieper town centre and to the south of the village of Vlamertinge (Vlamertinge is the modern spelling of Vlamertinghe). Vlamertinge is located along the Poperingseweg. From Ieper town centre the Poperingseweg (N308), is reached via Elverdingsestraat then straight over two small roundabouts in the J. Capronstraat. The Poperingseweg is a continuation of J. Capronstraat and begins after a prominent railway level crossing. The cemetery is located after turning left in the village of Vlamertinge onto the Hugo Verriestraat. This road crosses a railway and the main road N38, where the name of the street changes to Bellestraat. The cemetery lies 200 metres on the left hand side of the Bellestraat, after crossing the N38."

The plan is there also

http://www.cwgc.org/search/cemetery_plans.aspx?cemetery=14800&mode=1

If you can't get there don't worry about it, you have lots to do already!!

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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #27 on: Friday 06 November 09 10:37 UTC (UK) »

My Great Uncle Roland Vine who died on 15th October 1917 Private 31896, 10th Bn., Essex Regiment, is buried at Poelcapelle British Cemetery. I have never had a chance to vist his grave but my granddaughter was able to find it when she went on a visit with her school. They have a book with names and grave numbers in a place in the wall at the entrance to make it easy to find relatives.
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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 07 November 09 05:20 UTC (UK) »

Wow Keith, what a wonderful kind offer.

I live in Australia and we have only recently realized that Hubby's gr. uncle has a plaque on the Menin Gate.

We found out when we got his war records. His father paid for the plaque and the receipt is in the records.

His name was John Henry FREEMAN and he is on Panel 27. He was in the 46th battalion, and as far as we can tell no one i the family has ever seen the plaque.

It would be wonderful for all us Australian Freemans to finally be able to see what John Henry's dad paid for (it wasn't cheap).

If anyone is looking for Australian WW1 vetrans this site is excellent http://www.aif.adfa.edu.au:8080/index.html.

Thank you so very much, from Ted
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Re: Visiting Ypres - anyone need photos of graves?
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 07 November 09 16:33 UTC (UK) »

I live in Australia and we have only recently realized that Hubby's gr. uncle has a plaque on the Menin Gate.
This is the first I have heard of people paying for commemoration on the Menin Gate.  There are no plaques as such just (though just is not really the right word) 54,000 names on panels around the gate and the stairways to the city ramparts on either side. A very moving place with the added feature of the daily ceremony of remembrance.
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