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Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« on: Wednesday 04 November 09 12:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone

I am trying to trace a William Arnold ancestor who lived in or near Swaffham in the second half of the 18th century.  I have found two persons there of that name in that period, and would be grateful for any additional information about them, as follows:

- William Arnold buried in Swaffham 4 November 1800 aged 56, and his wife Ann buried 16 March 1805:  Is there any information about names and birth/baptism dates and places of their children?

- William Arnold who married Mary Peck in Swaffham in October 1768:  Is there any information about where and when he was born, and who his parents were?

Many thanks
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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:17 UTC (UK) »

Can't help with Williams origins I'm afraid but FreeReg shows:

William Arnold married Mary Peck 30/10/1768 Swaffham - they appear to have had 2 children: Anne bc.1769 bur.20/12/1769 (infant)
                         William bp.15/9/1771.

Mary Arnold, wife of William, was bur.29/6/1774.

William Arnold, widower, married Ann Racky, spinster, 1/3/1775 Swaffham.   Looks like William was a Shoemaker.   She was around 38 bc.1737 (older than him by 6 years) and they don't appear to have had any children.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annette

Many thanks for your very useful and rapid response.  That is very helpful.

Does FreeReg provide any information about the second William Arnold's previous marriage - specifically does it indicate whether that resulted in any children?

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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »

A Marriage record before 1837 would only show the name/status of the bride and groom together with witnesses.

Why not look on FreeReg yourself - as the name suggests it is free.

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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »

I had identified the two William Arnolds, and the information about them included in my first post, using FreeReg.  I had posted my query because I had found in researching the subsequent generation of my ancestors in Swaffham that there are versions of transcriptions of the parish records there that include information other than, or different from, that produced through FreeReg.  I was therefore trying to find out if this might be the case in this instance as well.

In going back to FreeReg, as you suggested, I found that I had missed the record there of the William Arnold/Ann Racky marriage that you flagged.  Thank you for that.

My intention in the query in my second post had been to find out if the parish marriage records identified the earlier marriage of William, or the baptism records contain any possible children of that marriage.  I now see that FreeReg does not have anything on either of these, so I am still searching on that one.

Again many thanks for your help and advice

Jemrap
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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

It seems quite likely that the two William Arnolds are one and the same person. William born circa 1744, married for the first time in 1768, having children Anne and William, then his wife dies in 1774 and he then remarries in 1775.

What you have got with the Swaffham records on FreeReg comes from the archdeacon's transcripts 1768-1812, which always have gaps. The entries from the parish registers for Swaffham have only been added to Freereg for baptisms 1813-1880, marriages 1737 -1754 and burials 1737-1901. So you could well be missing the baptisms of other children and William himself. You need a search of the actual parish registers to see if this additional information is there.
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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 November 09 12:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Thanks for this, it is very useful.  The argument that the two William Arnolds are likely the same person makes sense, and would explain a number of points that were puzzling me.

The information about the coverage of the parish registers on FreeReg also helps make sense of what I have found so far.  Is there a website where one can search the actual parish registers for Swaffham?

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Re: Swaffham parish records - William Arnold
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 November 09 19:50 UTC (UK) »

I have also checked the IGI coverage and the Norfolk Transcription Archive, but unfortunately neither carry the Swaffham PRs. You might yet get someone offering to do the look up for you alternatively, it looks like the LDS have filmed the Swaffham PRs, so if they have a family history centre near you, you could order the films in so you can look at them there.
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