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Ann Mary Stanton
« on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:35 UTC (UK) »

Birth registered at Wisbech 3rd quarter 1851. Who were her parents, and is there any known connection between her and the Stanton/Burton families of the area and south Lincolnshire?
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:44 UTC (UK) »

1861
RG9 1048 18 30

Barton House, Wisbech (obviously a school)
William R Stanton 47 schoolmaster b Newton Cambridge
Elizabeth wife 41 bn Lincs Tydd St Giles
William R son 21 Asst MAster bn Holbeach
Eliza A 19 dtr
James W 13 son
Ann M 9 dtr
Jane 7 dtr
Susan 5 dtr
Decima 4 dtr
Harry 2 son
Infant 1 day
Ann Stanton mother 80 wid  landed proprietrss
(mother and all children bar Wm bn Wisbech)
then also several school staff and lots of scholars!
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:45 UTC (UK) »

To part answer my own question an Ann Mary Stanton was bapt at Wisbech St. Marys 7 Jan 1855,IGI extracted record, which seems somewhat late, but not excessively so, the daughter of William Redlin Stanton and Elizabeth Sharp. Any known connections of them to Lincs etc.? Thanks.
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:48 UTC (UK) »

1841
HO107 608 7

Holbeach

William Stanton 25 N
Elizabeth 25  N
William 8 mths  Y
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:49 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that Lizdb, Was there any mention of the surname Lill amongst the others at the school please? I typed my previous contribution and when I submitted it yours was there too!
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:52 UTC (UK) »

Marriage from FreeBMD

Ap/MAy/JUn 1839
Holbeach 14 673
William Beder Stanton
one of brides: ELizabeth Sharp West.

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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:53 UTC (UK) »

Cant see any Lills at the school in 1861
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:57 UTC (UK) »

I asked because Ann married Alfred Lill (b1851 Halton Holgate Lincs) at Wisbech in 1875. I wondered if his father was teaching there in 1861, possibly he taught there in 1871, or there may of course be no connection.Thanks for marriage information.
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:01 UTC (UK) »

They had already started the school by 1851, though it was a lot smaller.

HO107 1766 135 4
Wisbech
William 37 Schoolmaster bn Newton
Elizabeth 31 bn Tydd St Mary Lincs
William 10 b Holbeach
Elizabeth 9 bn W
Samuel 7 bn W
West 3 bn W
Thomas 1 bn W

plus several pupils and a couple of servants, no other teaching staff.

I will look at 1871 in a mo for you in case of Lills (Ann was only 9 in 1861, so a bit young to meet future hubby!)
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that. Seems from what you say it was a boarding school. How many pupils there in 1861?
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:11 UTC (UK) »

1871  slighlty strange entry

RG10 1615 9 12
BArton House Boys School

Elizabeth 51 widow mother bn Tydd St MAry
James W 23 brother BA second master bn W
Ann M 19 sister  bn W
Jane 17 sister bn W
Susan 15 sister bn W
Decima 14 sister bn W
John 21 brother Coal merchant bn W
Harry 12 brother bn W

then numerous other school masters, servants and lots more pupils (but no Lills amongst any)

but I am not sure who is the head of the house - if you go back to the h/h before it is Barton House the farm, occupied by John and Fanny Desborough and their family.
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:31 UTC (UK) »

Again very useful thanks Liz.
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:39 UTC (UK) »

This I think begs the question "Where was John, the 21 year old coal merchant in 1851 and 1861? There is also another anomaly, his inclusion in the children makes Decima the 11th child. The name means 10th child. A school master wouldn't make a mistake like that in the Victorian era!
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:55 UTC (UK) »

Hmmmm

I make Decima the 10th! but I am taking West (age 3 in 1851) and James W (age 13 in 1861) as the same person.

And I do wonder if John (21 in 1871) Is the same as Thomas (1 in 1851, missing in 1861) but that would bring Decoma back to 9th ... but there could be a baby that is born and dies between censuses of course.

Will hunt around and see what else I can see.

Would be worth looking for a Will for WIlliam (once you have his death, which we know is between 1861 and 1871) and for Elizabeth (as Wm may just have left it all to her!) as I am sure they will have left them, and they could be a real help at sorting out the children and what happened to them all.
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Re: Ann Mary Stanton
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 November 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »

Births (all from FreeBMD)

Oct/Nov/Dec 1840
Holbeach 14 379
William Redin Stanton

Oct/Nov/Dec 1841
Wisbech 14 129
ELizabeth Ann Stanton

Jan/Feb/Mar 1844
Wisbech 14 155
Samuel Stanton

Jan/Feb/Mar 1846 (possible)
Wisbech 14 150
Jane Stanton

death
Jul/Aug/Sep 1846
Wisbech 14 123
Jane Stanton
(no ages given, so might not be her, might not even be a child )

Jul/Aug/Sep 1847
Wisbech 14 141
JAmes West Stanton

Jul/Aug/Sep 1849
Wisbech 14 152
John Thomas Stanton

Jul/Aug/Sep 1851
Wisbech 14 155
Ann Mary Stanton

Oct/Nov/Dec 1853
Wisbech 2b 505
Jane Stanton

JUl/Aug/Sep 1855
Wisbech 3b 551
Susan Stanton

Ap/May/Jun 1857
Wisbech 3b 600
Decima Fanny Stanton

Jul/Aug/Sep 1858
Wisbech 3b 544
Harry Allyn Stanton

Ap/May/Jun 1861
Wisbech 3b 632
Ellen Louisa Stanton

death
Oct/Nov/Dec 1863
Wisbech 3b 397
Ellen Louisa Stanton





William (senior)'s death:
April/May/Jun 1862
Wisbech 3b 375
William Redin Stanton







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