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Oh no, another mystery
« on: Thursday 05 November 09 03:35 UTC (UK) »

Just when I thought I'd figured everything out I've stumbled across another odd ball mystery, was checking through my great grandfathers children & found that my grandfathers older sister according to records was born in March 1887 & he was born in August 1887, only six months apart, huh?  Huh

I checked her death year & the age at death matches the record of birth

am I missing something here?

James
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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 November 09 03:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi James

Do you have birth certificates for both of them?

If you would like to give us some more details (names, places etc etc) perhaps we can help more?

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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 November 09 04:14 UTC (UK) »

Might March 1887 and August 1887 be dates of baptism rather than birth? Undecided
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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 November 09 04:48 UTC (UK) »

thanks guys, I've only just stumbled across this anomaly, has me stumped at this minute, looked up Find My Past for all the info, great grand father was born in 1860, first child born in 1885, I've looked between the years 1878 - 1887 & found no record of marriage yet,  Huh

I haven't applied for birth certificates yet, might get to that

The birth I'm trying to verify is of Frances Bessie Blachford, born in March 1887, her death as far as I can make is in 1947 with the name of Frances Bessie Crawley ( married name ) at age 60 which works out right

somethings amiss here, possible adoption? ( wild guess )



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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 November 09 07:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi James

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Just when I thought I'd figured everything out I've stumbled across another odd ball mystery, was checking through my great grandfathers children & found that my grandfathers older sister according to records was born in March 1887 & he was born in August 1887, only six months apart, huh? 

I checked her death year & the age at death matches the record of birth

am I missing something here?

If your grandfather was Edwin Henry Blachford born Bournemouth then his birth was registered in the Dec 1888 which would fit an August 1888 birth and matches his age in the 1891 census.

There was another registration for a Henry Edwin Blachford birth registered in Dec 1887 but that was in the New Forest Registration District. Henry is likely according to the 1891 census to be the son of Augustus and Rebecca Blachford, born Eling (which was in the New Forest Reg Dist)

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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 November 09 09:49 UTC (UK) »

thanks Andy, to throw a spanner in the works, Edwin Henry Blachfords Navy records shows him as being born on 27th August 1887, & death on certicate aged 40 in 1927,  am I not understanding something here?

I'm wondering if a relative died giving birth & they took over looking after the child, is that too far fetched?

this part of the family is from Lymington ( correct spelling? )

James
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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 November 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »

Men often lied about their ages to join the Navy.   The age on a death certificate is the one given by the informant, and may not be correct.

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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 November 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi James

I suspect that the DOB in the navy records is one year out. The birth of Edwin Henry Blachford was registered in Dec quarter 1888 and on the 1891 census he is 2 and sister Frances is 4 with parents William & Bessie.  I think you will find, as I said, that the birth registered in December qtr 1887  Henry Edwin Blachford is a different person.  You would need to get the birth certificate to verify it,

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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 November 09 10:51 UTC (UK) »

thanks for the ideas everyone, I'll get a birth certificate of both of them, that should clear things up I hope, even Edwins marriage certificate indicates he was born in 1887, sheesh!

I'd have to thank my relatives for making so much entertainment for me  Roll Eyes

though it wasn't uncommon for children to move around within family circles & be raised in a different household, we shall see what unfolds with further research!

James
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Re: Oh no, another mystery
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 November 09 12:37 UTC (UK) »

Frances Bessie Blachford to Crawley?

Found this on FreeBMD.
Marriages Sep 1915: Blachford, Frances B to Crawley, Edward - S. Stoneham - 2c - 206.

And, Births Mar 1887: Blachford, Frances Bessie - Christchurch - 2b - 639.

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