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JACKEROO
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wilbur zealnd barton
« on: Thursday 05 November 09 08:19 UTC (UK) »

looking for information on wilbur zealnd barton, he oculd have emigrated from england or scotland,
this is all the ifromation available on him
appreciate any help in looking who he is
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 November 09 09:33 UTC (UK) »

  Hi Jackeroo
this is his death


1967/41895 Barton  Zealand Wilbur  54Y

Cheers Janette
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 November 09 09:35 UTC (UK) »

thank you that is a first step and first bitof info found for him, thanks
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 November 09 10:40 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackeroo,

A Wilbur BARTON who died in 1967 is buried at Waimate Lawn Cemetery.

Wilbur Zealand BARTON entered Port Chalmers School (near Dunedin) OTG on 25 September 1918.

In 1932 Wilbur Zealand BARTON married Edna Evelyn ALLISON.

Regards, riley

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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 November 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackeroo

Just noting also that Archives New Zealand (Dunedin office) hold two divorce files in the name of Wilbur Zealand BARTON (dated 1947 and 1965).

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/


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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

thank , how do youaccess info on the site, have treidbut cannot understand it, appreciate your time
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 November 09 23:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackeroo

All the references given here so far, for Wilbur Zealand BARTON, are taken from indexes.   

They are really just a guide from which you can determine what records, (if purchased), would give you further helpful information.

*   What is it, you are trying to find out about Wilbur ?

Lu


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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 November 09 23:45 UTC (UK) »

i live in nsw, a friend of mine comes from nz, and was interested in trying to find out history on wilbur zealand barton, her father, all she know is he came from either england or scotland and married twice of that she know of, where he was buried and what year he died,, and wouldl like to learn more of  her fmaily hisory and would appreciate any help or information, so i thought i owuld try and help her as she has no computer
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 November 09 23:47 UTC (UK) »


thank , how do youaccess info on the site, have treidbut cannot understand it, appreciate your time



 Hi Jackeroo
this is his death


1967/41895 Barton Zealand Wilbur 54Y

Cheers Janette


Mmm ... it would have been helpful perhaps if the link to death index had been posted as well.   Cheesy

Here it is  > >

http://bdmhistoricalrecords.identityservices.govt.nz

Should you wish to purchase the death record ("printout" of same is recommended), then all the details are available on the site.

Lu
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 November 09 00:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackeroo

... I see you are currently online  .... my last post was made before I spotted your message.  Cheesy

Ok  ... the best thing to do at this point, is for your friend to purchase a "printout" record of Wilbur's first marriage.

This marriage record will contain information which Wilbur himself has supplied - including his birth place, his parents names - (and as such it is more reliable than information from a death certificate).

Go to the NZ BDM link (see my previous post).
There will be no reference number available on that site for Wilbur's (1st) marriage because it was after 1928 which is the cut off date for the NZ Historical BDM indexes.
However, it is still possible to purchase this record (details are on the BDM website).    Sending you a PM.


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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 November 09 00:38 UTC (UK) »


i live in nsw, a friend of mine comes from nz, and was interested in trying to find out history on wilbur zealand barton,   ..... so i thought i owuld try and help her as she has no computer


Hi again Jackeroo

Yes, unfortunately there really is no "free" information to be had for people like Wilbur who were born after 1900.   It does mean having to purchase BD or M records.



Wilbur Zealand BARTON entered Port Chalmers School (near Dunedin) OTG on 25 September 1918.


Regards, riley


Riley's information about this school record looks encouraging ... I'm not sure if anyone here can expand on that by giving the name of the Parent or guardian for Wilbur ?

Lu



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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 November 09 01:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackeroo

Just noting also that Archives New Zealand (Dunedin office) hold two divorce files in the name of Wilbur Zealand BARTON (dated 1947 and 1965).

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/


Lu


Jackeroo

Sometimes these Divorce records include a copy of the Marriage Certificate (and usually this is indicated in the listing on the Archives website).

The Divorce file dated 1947 doesn't note the inclusion of a marriage cert - but you may like to email Archives NZ at Dunedin and make an enquiry.  (They might just look up the record for you to see if marriage cert is there - if so, then it would make sense to purchase the divorce record, thus gaining that information and the marriage cert. as a bonus). Cheesy

Lu


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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 November 09 08:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi again Jackeroo,

Do you happen to know how Wilbur Zealand BARTON got his middle name? Sometimes children born on the voyage were given the ship's (or the captains's) name but in this case it appears from your information that he was more likely born in ENG or SCT.

To answer Lucy2's question above , the index entry for Port Chalmers School did not provide the name of a parent.

I would recommend getting hold of the divorce records before paying for a marriage certificate as Lucy2's advice is correct - you may get two for the price of one.

Regards, riley
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HEALEY - Staffordshire ENG
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 November 09 09:01 UTC (UK) »

The name of WZB's second wife was Heather Belle MCLENNAN. They married in 1948.

riley
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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - Staffordshire ENG
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
JACKEROO
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Re: wilbur zealnd barton
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:00 UTC (UK) »

thank you , i will keep searching
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