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Topic: Old Bible Challenge - CLARKE family (Read 1053 times)
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krisesjoint
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Nate at 9 weeks
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Good luck Dee,
Since Keith's funeral was the most recent I grabbed the undertakers details.
As you can see in all, not a big result I am afraid.
Kris
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Just Moi
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Hi all,
I am just in awe of all your efforts, if I could help, I would...
Many many kind thoughts from Moi...
JM
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deeiluka
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Every little can help, Kris.....you never know what snippet will lead to a break through. 
Dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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I've found nothing on online trees about this family, or any of the other families I've been searching in relation to them.
On the off chance that someone will google a name and see this, I'm going to post the information I've gathered about Caroline Jean born BLACK CLARKE and her parents and siblings.
James Rotherford BLACK aged 24 and single married Jean Ann GURR aged 23 and single on 10th October 1869 at the residence of William Gurr, Saddleworth.
Fathers = James Rotherford BLACK & William GURR
Ref = Gil 81/66
Children of this couple……
1. Caroline Jean BLACK born 3rd March 1871 at Saddleworth
Ref = Gil 92/228
2. Charles Robert BLACK born 22nd July 1874 at Laura
Ref = Cla 139/102
1925 & 1931 W A Electoral Roll
Charles Robert BLACK farmer Harrismith, Williams
Charles R BLACK died in WILLIAMS in 1931. Ref. No = 32
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3. Robert BLACK born 1st April 1876 at Laura
Ref = Cla 163/321
Died aged 2 days 2nd April 1876 at Laura
Ref = Cla 73/15
4. George Rutherford BLACK born 8th April 1877 at Laura
Ref = Cla 181/8
1925,1931,1936,1937 W A Electoral Roll
George Rutherford BLACK farmer Harrismith, Williams
Rose Edith Black Home Duties Harrismith, Williams
1943 W A Electoral Roll
George Rutherford BLACK Retired Scholl St
5. William Albert BLACK born 16th June 1879 at Arkaba
Ref = Fro 222/463
1925 W A Electoral Roll
William Albert BLACK farmer Harrismith, Williams.
1931, 1936, 1937 W A Electoral Roll
William Albert BLACK farmer nr Agricultural School, Narrogin
This family doesn’t appear in BISA.
James Rutherford BLACK aged 35 of Arkaba died at Arkaba on 2nd October 1879
Ref = Fro 97/469
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deeiluka
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Jean Ann (GURR) BLACK remarried….
Jean Ann BLACK widow aged 36 married Charles Henry BOX single and aged 30 on 13th June 1882 at the residence of Mrs Black, Chapmanton.
Fathers = William GURR & William BOX
Ref = Fro A 131/1106
Children of Jean Ann (fmly) BLACK (nee) GURR & Charles Henry BOX……
1. William John Edwin BOX born 18th March 1883 at Chapmanton
Ref = Fro 301/93
2. Phillip Norman BOX born 8th June 1886 at Arkaba
Ref = Fro 419/455
3. Amanda BOX born 20 October 1884 at Arkaba
Ref = Fro 338/315
4. Charles Henry BOX born 28th July 1886 at Hawker
Ref = Fro 379/331
Jean Ann BOX aged 96 of Lockleys, widow of Charles Henry BOX, died on 22nd February 1943 at Lockleys.
Ref = Ade H 661/1066
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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Following the children of Jean Ann GURR and James Rutherford BLACK …….
George Rutherford BLACK aged 33 and single married Rose Edith HARROLD on 13th July 1910 at the residence of Mr Harrold, Willow Plains.
Fathers = James Rutherford BLACK & William HARROLD
Ref = Fro 244/94
George Rutherford BLACK & Rose Edith HARROLD had four children between 1911 and 1918 whose deaths I haven't found, so there is a possibility they could be still living……..
George R BLACK died in WILLIAMS in 1942 Ref No = 85
I've not found marriages for the other brothers.
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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deeiluka
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Following the children of Jean Ann GURR & Charles Henry BOX ……
1. William John Edwin BOX aged 25 and single married Louisa Faith MATTHEWS aged 24 and single on 24th June 1908 at the Baptist Church, Orroroo.
Fathers = Charles Henry BOX & George MATTHEWS
Ref = Fro 235/701
William John Edwin BOX & Louisa Faith MATTHEWS had one daughter who may still be living.
Louisa Faith BOX aged 41, wife of John Edwin BOX, of Balaklava, died on 25th November 1925 at Croydon.
Ref = Hin 483/241
2nd marriage
William John Edwin BOX widower and aged 45 married Ada Jane MATTHEWS single and aged 42 on 9th February 1929 at the residence of Rev R Graham, West Croydon.
Fathers = Charles Henry BOX & George MATTHEWS
Ref = Hin 318/349
Ada Jane BOX aged 46, wife of William John Edwin BOX, of Balaklava, died on 8th June 1932 at Parkside.
Ref = Ade 539/73
He must have married a third time……
William John Edwin BOX aged 88, husband of Nellie BOX, of Largs North died 20th December, 1971 at Eastwood.
Ref = Nor H 149A/9411
This looks like her death….
Florence Margaret BOX aged 77, widow of John Edwin BOX, of Port Lincoln, died on 25th May 1972 at Woodville.
Ref = Hin H 165A/3696
Philip Norman BOX single aged 29 married Sarah MCINNES single aged 26 on 24th April 1918 at the Methodist Church, South Arkaba.
Fathers = Charles Henry BOX & Peter MCINNES
Ref = Fro 275/337
Philip Norman BOX & Sarah MCINNES had five children that I was able to find.
Amanda BOX single aged 23 married William Henry ADAMS single aged 28 on 12th February 1908 at the residence o the bride’s parents, Cradock.
Fathers = Charles Henry BOX & George ADAMS
Ref = Fro 234/280
Amanda BOX & William Henry ADAMS had ten children.
Amanda ADAMS aged 87, wife of William Henry ADAMS, of Nuriootpa, died 18th October, 1972 at Nuriootpa.
Ref = Ang H 182A/7837
Charles Henry BOX single aged 35 married Eva Elsie BOWERS single aged 27 on 19th July 1922 at the residence of C Bowers, Yangya.
Fathers = Charles BOX & Charles BOWERS
Ref = Cla 292/185
Charles Henry BOX & Eva Elsie BOWERS had 5 children that I know of.
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deeiluka
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My friend and I are now the happy co-owners of the old Bible, which gives us much more time to try to achieve our goal of finding it a rightful home. The shop owner dropped her price to a level that the two of us could afford between us. 
When my friend showed her the information we had put together so far, the shop owner realised that she had gone to school with one of the children. Unfortunately, they haven't kept in touch. 
Dee 
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Just Moi
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This is good news Dee,
If I can help, I will...
JM
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deeiluka
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Ashley CLARKE aged 35 and single married Caroline Jean BLACK aged 24 and single on 7th November 1895 at the residence of Mrs J Box, Wirreanda.
Fathers = James CLARKE & James BLACK
Ref = Fro 185/561
Father of Ashley CLARKE was James CLARKE and I've just found the following in the Advertiser, 6th March 1912......
"Death
CLARKE. Ont the 5th March, at his daughter's home, (Mrs HARLAND), Victoria Terrace, Glenelg, James CLARKE, formerly of Cradock, aged 73 years. A colonist of 50 years. At rest."
That makes him about the right age and definitely from the right area to be the father of Ashley. Now to prove it...... or disprove it 
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deeiluka
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Ashley CLARKE aged 35 and single married Caroline Jean BLACK aged 24 and single on 7th November 1895 at the residence of Mrs J Box, Wirreanda.
Fathers = James CLARKE & James BLACK
Ref = Fro 185/561
Father of Ashley CLARKE was James CLARKE and I've just found the following in the Advertiser, 6th March 1912...... "Death CLARKE. Ont the 5th March, at his daughter's home, (Mrs HARLAND), Victoria Terrace, Glenelg, James CLARKE, formerly of Cradock, aged 73 years. A colonist of 50 years. At rest."That makes him about the right age and definitely from the right area to be the father of Ashley. Now to prove it...... or disprove it
I've done it!
Following on from finding that newspaper obit, I went back to the BMD and searched for all Clarkes born between 1850 and 1980 to the north of Adelaide with a father James. One likely couple came up and I found the marriage of their daughter Mary to John George Harland, so I had the right James of the obituary. No Ashley among the registered births however, though other names matched up.
Went back to BISA......and don't ask me how I missed the following, but I did.
James CLARKE born about 1837 in SCT and died in 1912.
He’d arrived by 1860.
Occupation =Grazier
He resided at Kapunda, Redhill, & Carrieton.
Religion = Methodist.
He married in 1860 to Bridget .
Bridget was born IRL and arrived in 1856.
Children =
Ashley born1860 died 1932 (twin)
John born 1860 (twin of Ashley)
2 children that died as infants
Mary
Ewen born 1863 died 1939
Albt Ed born 1867 died 1932
Frank
Edmund born 1873 died 1928
Ede
Agnes
So now to trace this family down........ 
Dee
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deeiluka
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From the South Australian Indexes
The marriage….
James CLARKE aged 23 married Bridget DOHERTY aged 22 on 29th June 1859 at St John, Kapunda.
Fathers = Richard CLARKE & John DOHERTY
Ref = Kap 38/273
Seven of the children of James CLARKE & Bridget DOHERTY......
1. Francis CLARKE born 24th July 1861 at Possum Scrub.
Ref = Kap A 23/10
Francis CLARKE aged 4 months of OPossum Scrub died on 30th November at OPossum Scrub.
Father = James CLARKE
Ref = Kap F 13/385
2. Ewin CLARKE born 11th January 1863 at Opossum Scrub, Hd of Kapunda.
Ref = Kap 28/29
3. Frank CLARKE born 11th March 1864 at Opossum Scrub.
Ref = Kap 30/198
4. Mary Ann CLARKE born 20th September 1865 at Gilles Creek
Ref = Kap 38/33
5. Albert CLARKE born 3rd March 1867 at the Hd of Julia Creek.
Ref = Kap 51/419
6. Edmond CLARKE born 25th September 1873 at Gilles Creek.
Ref = Kap129/625
7. Agnes Cecilia CLARKE born 6th August 1877 at Narridy.
Ref = Cla 187/191
No amount of searching has found the missing children’s registrations, including that of son Ashley.
Bridget CLARKE aged 79, of Appila Yarrowie and wife of James CLARKE, died on the 10th October 1891 at Appila Yarrowie
Ref = Fro 197/152
James CLARKE aged 75 and widower of Glenelg died on 5th March 1912 at Glenelg.
Ref = Ade 363/446
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deeiluka
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Photos of old Bible here....
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=418998.msg2844670;topicseen#msg2844670
Dee
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Steeles, Burton, Garrod - Norfolk Bauer - London, France Clarke, Tomblin - Rutland Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, Linnell - Northants Watts - Wiltshire Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp - Germany Redwood -Devon, Essex Blades, Babb- Surrey Selway, Churchill, Chappell - Somerset Watts - Somerset, Wiltshire Button, Archer, Leach - Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Interesting from BISA (removed the duplicate Dee )
child mentioned - Ede
CLARKE Edith 4 Nov 1871 Gilles Creek Dist Kap 106 392 parents James CLARKE and Bridget SHEPHERD
Cheers Kris
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deeiluka
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Did I post it twice Kris?  
Trying to do too many things at once here.
That's an interesting birth.....how would you get Shepherd out of Doherty....but it looks like the right one, doesn't it?
Dee
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