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erin31
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Hi. Does any one have access to the marriage records of St. John Newcastle for 1859 to 1866.
I am looking for the marriage of a Thomas Davison who married a Mary Ann Hutton we were told in 1865 but it could of been as early as 1859.
Many thanks Kim
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evie
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Hi Kim
Can I ask how you came by her maiden name?
It's just that I can see a Mary A Lee marrying a Thomas Davison 1865 at St John the Baptist, Newcastle
Evie
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erin31
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Hi Evie.
Thanks for you help.
I came upon her maiden name from an inscription in a family bible.
Things are never straight forward are they lol.
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evie
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Hi Kim
No things are never straight forward 
I still cannot find anything. Was there any other information that might help?
Evie
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erin31
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No sadly there was not but I am not sure when details were put in the bible or who buy. Maybe whoever wrote it had been given the wrong information.
There are a few things in the bible that do not match with facts I have found so I wonder if someone filled in the details years after the events. Maybe after doing their own research.
Thank you very much for the help you have given, it is very much appreciated.
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evie
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Kim
Don't give up just because I cannot see Mary Ann Hutton, it doesn't mean they didn't. There may be other records that I don't have access to.
Someone else may have more luck
Evie
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Michael Dixon
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Kim,
I have a hunch you are not asking the right question ! Bold of me !.
Are you just wanting to know if Thomas Davison married Mary Ann Hutton or the date and place they married.
Are you wanting to trace their marriage to gather more info that a marriage record would reveal e.g. about their fathers ?
I regularly go to Tyne & Archives where film of the original marriage register of St John the Baptist's parish Newcastle is readily available
But looking through those years, in a busy city centre church would take a good while.
Normally I would try to cut down the time window of the event by looking for it
under the civil indexes of marriages ( available on line on FreeBMD site and Newcastle Register Office site ) Like Evie has done.
I too can see the 1965 marriage at St John's but bride was Mary Ann LEE, not Hutton.
So at this stage no sign of your targeted marriage.
Do you know the ages, occupations of your pair ? Addresses ? Have you traced them on any subsequent census. Do you know of any children they went on to have. Was Mary Ann's birth surname Hutton ? Could she have been born a Lee ?
Is the family bible a Davison one or a Hutton ?
Michael
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erin31
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Hi Michael.
First of all apologisies. I have made an error in my own post. Mary Ann was called Mary Ann Hunter not Hutton.
The bible was a Davison bible but we do not know who filled in any of the details or indeed when they were filled in.
It is possible someone has attempted to trace the family tree in the past and filled in the details themselves. We just don't know.
As to the marriage it states that Thomas James Davison married Mary Ann Hunter on the 22 May 1865. But after Thomas James Davison it actually gives his date of birth and death which leads me to believe that someone filled in these details much much later.
The difficult part is although this is my family line the bible does not belong to myself or a member of my direct family and I am getting all information about it second or maybe even third hand.
Thomas James was a seaman and we have found him on the 1861 living at sea but now I have found Mary Ann on the 1861 census also and she is listed as Mary Ann Davison and states she is married!
This throws doubt on the information I was given with regards to the marriage.
As for her maiden name, again I have been told this from another family member and they are quite certain of this as they remember talk of her brother Thompson and some of her sisters. Although this also must of been passed down over the years, a lot of years, so ..........maybe I am asking the wrong questions!
I am finding this difficult Michael as I am being given much information but it is conflicting with what records tell me.
I believe all the information given to me thus far is from census records and so, yes I realise it may not be correct.
Regards Kim
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Michael Dixon
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On 1851 census ( 2419-536-8) I saw a Mary Ann Hunter aged 15 with a brother called Thompson Hunter aged 8, both born Alnwick. ( Thompson went on to success in the army and at Somerset House, London - where all our BMD registration info was stored- before volume necessitated a move to St Catherine's House)
Does any of that info fit ?
Michael
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Names.
GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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erin31
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Pat & Michael, thank you both for your help.
I have been told that Thompson was most certainly the name of Mary Ann's brother but it all comes down to hearsay.
I have again had contact with the person from whom I recieved these detail of Thomas and Mary Ann and all her information has come from census, the bible or hearsay and I'm finding it very difficult to convey just how incorrect this could all be.
I have suggested that BMD's need to be sort but this suggestion has been ignored.
I have spent hours on this over the last week and cannot find anything to back what I am being told. Even if I do, it may not be the correct family.
I am finding this difficult as this person has a very good and lengthy tree and I cannot go jumping in and suggest that a lot of it may be incorrect.
I myself when I first started research spent a great many months tracing many generations of a family certain it was my ancestry. It wasn't and all it took was one birth certificate to show me how wrong I had been!
Erin
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Michael Dixon
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Erin,
I think the likes of Pat and I and other chatters doing family research, use, in general terms the "tools" of 1) censuses 1841-1911, 2) Civil Registrations of BMDs from July 1837 onwards and 3) Church records of Baptisms, Marriages and Burials.
These are the main "rocks" on which trees are built.
To start with, can you please, if you have the info, give Mary Ann's place of birth.
Michael
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Names.
GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND
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evie
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Posts: 1900
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Maybe it might be best to start from scratch ie. if you are researching a descendent or a possible descendent, to give us their name so we can work back and for now ignore the info you are getting. If if fits all well and good and if not then you know you are not on a wild goosechase.
When I was younger I tried to do a small family tree, I was told my great grandmother's name was Sophia, it wasn't, she was my great great grandmother and that came from my Dad!
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