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grandma
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Hope somebody could please help me with the first marriage of William Bryden.
William Bryden b. Apr. 14 1849, son of Thomas Bryden and Jean Fulton, Kilwinning.
I have a marrriage of William Bryden to Jane Bailie Oct. 25 1881, in Kilmanock where it states he is a widower. Would like to find the first marriage.
Mary
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Mary 
I can't see anything obvious for him before or after the marriage in 1881  There is one William Bryden b. 1847 with a Kilwinning birth place, married to a Betsey/Elizabeth, but they show together before and after this date (and he looks to be the main one showing on the censuses with a Kilwinning birth place).
What was his occupation, might help in trying to find him in the censuses. Have you found Thomas and Jane Bryden in the earlier censuses?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi Monica.
Waiting for my new computor to arrive and will get back to you later. I have Williams birth and also have him on a couple of census with his mother and family.
His mother and father were not married. She later married Samuel Bonner. On the marriage cert it says, Jean Brydon, but this is not correct.
Jean Fulton also had another son with surname Goldie. He married the same year and his wife(Janet Shaw?) was one of the witnesses at Williams marriage
All my info is at home, but just wanted to check this thread. Think he was coalminer
Cheers,
Mary.
I should be back on line to-morrow
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Hi.
Have been going through my info re. William Brydon/Bryden.
William Brydon was the illigitimate son of Thomas Brydon and Jean Fulton. Jean also had another illigitimate son James Goldie , father Robert Goldie. These were both reg. on the same page on OPR.
Jean went on to m. Samuel Bonner and on the 1861 census, Kilwinning, William Brydon age, 12 was living with his mother, stepfather and half brother. He was missing from 1871 census, Auchinleck, with this family and the next I could find of him was his marriage in 1881.
Have searched both before and after his marriage to Jane Ballie but have found nothing so far.
Just a thought, Jean Fulton Bonner`s sister, with family, emigrated to USA 1879, Could William have done the same. The men in these families were all coalminers.
Mary
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MonicaLesl
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I wonder if this could be him in 1900 US Census living in Bevier City, Macon, Missouri:
William Bryden 52, coal miner b. Scotland - arrived in the US in 1868
Jane Bryden 38, b. Scotland - arrived in the US in 1882
Jennie Bryden 15
Bell Bryden 13
Ray Bryden 10
Arthur Bryden 9
Bessie Bryden 1
All the children show as being born in the US. Could William have left for the US in 1868, come back c. 1881 to marry Jane and then returned to the US to start a family with her there?
They show as married for 19 yrs which would also fit with an 1881 marriage.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Wonderful Monica.
This looks promising, must have a look into it all.
Thanks a million.
Mary
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Hi.
What was the date for the 1881 census. Have tried to find William in Scotland but so far nothing.
Have a marriage for Wm Bryden, 19 and Margaret Douglas,19, ms Douglas, Apr. 1869, Auchenlech.
Mary
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Mary
This link has UK census dates up to 1901 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nicoleg/censusdates.htm
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Mary, have you looked at the 1869 marriage - was it the correct William?
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Yes , Monica. Parents Thomas Bryden and Jean Fulton.
Wonder where he is on the 1881 census, maybe still in the US.
Mary
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MonicaLesl
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I did see these children for William and Margaret:
1. WILLIAM BRYDEN Birth: 22 DEC 1869 Auchinleck, Ayr
2. THOMAS BRYDEN Birth: 12 MAY 1874 Kilmarnock, Ayr
Can't see anything for the family in the 1871 census in Scotland (maybe US if we have the right William there in 1900). The 1874 birth above would imply the came back though...
Maybe worth checking for a death for Margaret wife in Scotland after 1874?
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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There is a death showing for a Margaret Bryden/Douglas in Kilmarnock in 1881 (cutting it pretty sharp!).
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Have a census 1870 for Hickory Township. Penn. for a William Braden,21 and wife Margaret, 20, both b. Scotland. William was a coalminer. Could it be them?
Did you see the parents for William. b 1869 and Thomas b. 1874? There seems to be a lot of Bryden`s. But will look at SP again.
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Have just been on SP and both births are Wm. and Margaret`s
Margaret ,married to Wm. Bryden died, Jan 23 1881.
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MonicaLesl
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The parents for William and Thomas show on IGI as William and Margaret (Douglas).
That 1870 US entry does look like it could be them doesn't it
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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