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janeeliza999
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Heywood 
I believe that Moses is not my Johns Father.
I have looked at a family tree of my second cousin and hers stops at John Dredge.
I have emailed her to see if she has any information on this, but as she is in Canada, she may not have the mail yet.
Jane
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nigelp
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Hi Jane,
I was able to visit the WRO earlier this afternoon to look at relevant original records.
The marriage between John Dredge and Caroline Penn was by Banns on 14 January 1850 in Downton. John was a bachelor and labourer of Redlynch. Caroline was a spinster of Charlton. The fathers of the Groom and Bride are incorrectly reversed in the certificate but are Moses Dredge, labourer and John Penn, labourer. Both parties left their mark and the wedding was witnessed by Sarah Dredge (her mark) and Henry (looked like Eldridge but I cannot be certain).
Moses is, therefore, not the father of the John Dredge who married Elizabeth Stone. The LDS entry is, therefore, incorrect.
Moving on to Britford I found the following baptism:
4 Jan 1818 - John son of Peter & Ann Dredge, Britford, carpenter
Peter and Ann would, therefore, appear to be the parents of the John Dredge who married Elizabeth Stone bearing in mind the census entries give John's place of birth as Britford. This baptism, therefore, appears to be what you require for your tree. There were no other John Dredges baptised in Britford in the period 1795 - 1825.
I noted the following additional baptisms in Britford of children for Peter and Ann:
24 Feb 1805 - Mary Anne
19 Apr 1807 - Elizabeth
19 Jan 1812 - Peter
24 Sep 1815 - Hannah (privately baptised on 6 Oct 1814 - father's occupation given as carpenter)
The records for Britford prior to 1812 are not easy to read and follow. I may, therefore, have missed a child. However, there was no obvious baptism in the period 1807 - 1812.
I didn't have a lot of time but did, however, also note the following baptisms for Britford:
14 Aug 1842 - Thomas Stone son of John & Elizabeth Dredge, Britford, carpenter
30 Jun 1844 - Ann White dter of John & Elizabeth Dredge, Britford, carpenter
19 Sep 1847 - Eliza Pitt dter of John & Elizabeth Dredge, Britford, carpenter
Being short of time I was only able to quickly glance at the Burials but did note the following:
6 Apr 1839 - Anne Dredge, Britford, aged 63 (presumably the wife of Peter)
3 Dec 1809 - Elizabeth Dredge (identified as dter of Peter & Ann)
From the GRO records Peter Dredge may have died in 1854 (GRO: 5a 132 Alderbury Jun 1854).
I haven't been able so far to find the marriage for Peter Dredge and Ann(e).
I hope the above information is helpful.
Nigel
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Alcock (Ashill), Barber (Chilcompton), Breeze (Ovington), Carey (Salisbury and Warminster), Collacott (Combe Martin and Shebbear), Creamer (North Elmham), Goss (Bristol and Combe Martin), Musselwhite (Britford and Downton), Sparkes (North Elmham), Thorogood (Little Hallingbury), Turner (Codford, Salisbury and Warminster), Wakefield (Briston and Hindolveston)
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nigelp
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Hi Heywood,
Just corrected and added to my previous post. The baptisms for John and Hannah both specifically identified Peter as being a carpenter. There was no occupation given for Peter in the earlier entries.
Nigel
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Alcock (Ashill), Barber (Chilcompton), Breeze (Ovington), Carey (Salisbury and Warminster), Collacott (Combe Martin and Shebbear), Creamer (North Elmham), Goss (Bristol and Combe Martin), Musselwhite (Britford and Downton), Sparkes (North Elmham), Thorogood (Little Hallingbury), Turner (Codford, Salisbury and Warminster), Wakefield (Briston and Hindolveston)
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janeeliza999
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Hiya Nigel
I cant thank you enough for your time and the information you have given to me.
The information I had didn't seem to be right, as regards to Moses, and now, thanks to you, it has given clarity to this.
I think you are correct in saying that Henry Eldridge was a witness for the marriage of John Dredge and Caroline Penn, as during my research, he did marry a Sarah Dredge b 9 may 1824 on 14 April 1846, Downton.
It has been a muddle, I think, and 2 families have been joined, incorrectly.
But, Hey Ho, its a bit of a journey for us all.
I thank you for your kindness
But as the saying goes
I'll be back !
Many thanks Jane
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nigelp
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Hi Jane,
It is clear now that a Peter and Ann(e) Dredge are the parents of your John Dredge. However, a bit more searching is required for their marriage and baptisms / births. Their marriage does not appear to have been in Britford and with Peter having been born in Hampshire (at least according to the 1851 Census) the marriage may perhaps have been in that county. At present I have no clues as to Ann(e)'s maiden name or place of baptism / birth.
Peter's daughter Hannah Dredge married Mark Downer in 1848 (GRO: 8 449 Alderbury Dec 1848).
I was interested to see in the 1851 Census that Peter Dredge was living next door to my Musselwhite relatives in Britford!
Nigel
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Alcock (Ashill), Barber (Chilcompton), Breeze (Ovington), Carey (Salisbury and Warminster), Collacott (Combe Martin and Shebbear), Creamer (North Elmham), Goss (Bristol and Combe Martin), Musselwhite (Britford and Downton), Sparkes (North Elmham), Thorogood (Little Hallingbury), Turner (Codford, Salisbury and Warminster), Wakefield (Briston and Hindolveston)
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