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Topic: Look up census 1841 please (Read 125 times)
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janjim
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Hi,
I wonder if someone could assist me please, I am trying to find parents of Sarah Ellison born 6.11.1825 Manchester Cathedral, parents Lawrence & Judith Ellison.
Marriage certificate of Sarah to John Ambrose shows father as Lawrence Ellison Publican,
married 20.10.1845 at Prestwich.
Would love to know further on the family
janjim
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey - Newbury Berkshire
Kearn - Tibberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Luzzu
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Hi,
So far I can only find a Judith Ellison born 1801 in Lancashire on the 1841 census. She is aged 40 and living in the Manchester Union Workhouse.
Do you think this might be her?
HO107/573/17 48 p 12
No sign of Lawrence yet.
Luzzu
PS If it is the right Judith, I can see her in 1851, 1871 and 1881 as a widow boarding with various people and then I think this is her death in 1882:-
June 1882
Judith Ellison aged 82
Manchester 8d 135
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Buck, Staffs & Hants; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh/Hague, Manchester & Todmorden; Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Yorkshire; Shackleton, Burnley, Yorkshire & Australia;
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dotty
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Taken from IGI I don't know if you have these
Other children James c1822,Elizabeth 1820, Mary 1828,Harriet 1830
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Braithwaite,Roney,Hartley,Jackson,Reed, Cumberland /Westmorland .Livesey,Hartley,Taylor,Sefton,Harrison,Knowles,Lancashire.Bottomley,Schofield,Woodhouse ,Hobson ,Norcliffe and Hartley West Yorkshire.Bottomley Dumfrieshire and Lanarkshire.Pinder ,Warwickshire.Kisby ,Cambridgeshire This information is Crown Copyright,from www.natiionalarchives.gov.uk |
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Luzzu
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Hi again,
On the marriage certificate for 1845, does it say Lawrence is deceased?
Luzzu
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Buck, Staffs & Hants; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh/Hague, Manchester & Todmorden; Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Yorkshire; Shackleton, Burnley, Yorkshire & Australia;
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janjim
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Hi Luzzu,
Thanks for this
info, no I didn't see these other children on the IGI, and no mention of Lawrence Ellison being deceased on the marriage certificate. Only that he was a Publican.
Have you been able to find Sarah Ellison on the 1841 census at all? She didn't marry until 1845.
I guess, if that is her mother Judith in a workhouse in 1841, obviously Sarah must have been out there working somewhere
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey - Newbury Berkshire
Kearn - Tibberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Luzzu
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Hi,
I would say this one is the closest match. She is living in Salford with the Burgess family. It says she is 15 but I think ages were rounded down in 1841. The original is really difficult to read and I can't make out the occupation.
1841
Sarah Ellison 15
Benjamin Burgess 30 school master
Mary Ann Burgess 30
Margret Burgess 3
HO107/ 586/ 5 Folio: 33 p 18
I think the address is Mason Street, Salford.
It looks like Sarah is the head in this transcription but she could have been living with the family recorded before as they were all at the same address. It is difficult to tell who belongs to who.
James Barnshaw 60 cotton weaver
Sarah Barnshaw 60
Elizabeth Barnshaw 15
HO107/586/5 Fo 33 p18
Whilst I am looking, this is Sarah with her husband and family in 1851:-
1851 1 Court Battle Street, Manchester
John Ambrose 27 head labourer
Sarah Ambrose 25 wife
John Henry Ambrose 5 son
James Ambrose 3 son
Jonathan Ambrose 1 son
John Ambrose was born in Liverpool and Sarah and the boys were born in Manchester.
HO107/2226/310 p 54
Luzzu
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Buck, Staffs & Hants; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh/Hague, Manchester & Todmorden; Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Yorkshire; Shackleton, Burnley, Yorkshire & Australia;
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janjim
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Hi again Luzzu,
This is great, thanks for all of this information, yes I did have the Ambrose family information, but that seems to confirm it all now.
Regards
jan
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New, Thorn, Bird, Ruffey - Newbury Berkshire
Kearn - Tibberton, Herefordshire
Gwilliam - Monmouth Wales, Herefordshire
Collier, Jackson - Salford, Manchester Lancashire
Saunders - Middlesex, Devon
Benson - Edinburgh, Scotland
Callander - Falkirk, Scotland
Ambrose - Liverpool, Manchester Lancashire, Canada
Timms, Elliman - Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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