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Topic: COMPLETED Bram..well?..mer? (Read 298 times)
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emmsthheight
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Posts: 1899
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Hi Kiwiham
Welcome to Rootschat!
I think answer is absolutely a "Yes!"
Cumbrian dialect is definitely different from written English! There is a tendency for the local dialect to miss out consonants or change them. Often you will opften only hear part of a wird, especially local place names.
Hence 't Moor for The Moor meaning Cleator Moor,
Bleckell for Blackwell
Wuckint'n for Workington
Turpenn'r for Torpenhow
Many will have many variations - infact someone will probably come on and ytell me I got it wrong!
There are some good websites with diaect. If I have time later I'll put links on.
They even have their own numbers - put in shepherds counting or similar!
Best wishes and good luck with the interpretting.
Enjoy Rootschat!
Emms
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emmsthheight
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Hi
Glad it makes sense with what you've got. I hope you get loads of leads. Try some more on Rootschat! If there's any more we can do to help, do say.
Best wishes
Emms
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Geoff-E
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The bloke who ran off with an ancestor of mine was a descendant of John BRAMWELL 1797 Alston.
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Geoff-E
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John 1797
Thomas 1836
John Russell 1860 - he lived with Jane BURNS (nee STEWART) from c1892. Her husband died in 1913, then they married in 1915.
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« Last Edit: Saturday 14 November 09 11:29 UTC (UK) by Geoff-E »
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Geoff-E
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Are you saying John senior was also called John Russell? I must have missed that.
Yes, that's what I said - I can't find anything to back that up, so I think it's wrong 
Marriage 20 Nov 1915 at Morpeth Register Office
John BRAMWELL (56, wid, Coal miner Hewer, son of Thomas (dec) Ironstone miner) to
Jane BURNS (56, wid, dau of George STEWART (dec) General Carter)
both of 123 Pont Street, Ashington
First child
Births Mar 1893
BURNS Samuel Bramwell Whitehaven 10b 657
Jane was with husband Michael BURNS in 1881 and 1891. He died 13 July 1913 Whitehaven
Jane died 24 Nov 1921 (60)
John died 4 Oct 1926 (63), both of 123 Pont Street.
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Geoff-E
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I don't worry too much about spellings -
In 1873 she was Jane STUART of Irish Street, dau of George STUART
In 1915 she was Jane BURNS dau of George STEWART (dec)
George STEWART lived at Michells Court, Irish Street from at least 1865 till 1904 (death) and his 2nd wife continued to live there until 1907.
Re Stead/Stuart - the words are certainly of similar shape. In the days of scratchy pens by candlelight, mistranscription has to be a possibility.
Five of those seven were registered-
Q1 1875 10a 529 James Strange
Q1 1877 10b 689 George
Q3 1879 10b (5/6)35 Hugh
5 July 1880 Mary Agnes (a relation gave me that one)
Q4 1881 10b 571 Margaret
1884 Sarah
Q4 1890 10b 596 Thomas William (died 1891)
Then there was Samuel Bramwell BURNS and John Russell BRAMWELL ... making nine.
In the 1911 census, the BRAMWELL couple - who were of course not yet married - claim to have been married for 19 years, having had 15 children, 9 of whom were still living.
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