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aggiebagwash
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Spalding maps circa 1860
« on: Friday 06 November 09 18:50 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone have access to a map of Spalding around 1860 I would like to know where the slipway was? I have managed to find the inquest records for the death of a  great great grandfather. One of the witness statements says that they were fishing at the Reservoir and the next word looks like by (then two indecipherable words) the next word could be either and or old. The next word is slipway. The sentence reads, We were fishing by ******  and/old slipway.

They lived in Little London so I suppose they would have fished close to home but that's only a guess.

Also what would they have been fishing for does anyone know? Roll Eyes

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 November 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »

Try the first edition of the Ordnance Survey. As to what they were fishing for, I don't know for certain but as one who lived in the fens for some years I would suggest eels.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 November 09 21:44 UTC (UK) »

I thought it could be eels as well.  On all the censuses he says fisherman so I had been thinking more of the sea but according to the inquest report they fished on the Fens so it is more likely to be eels as you say.

Thanks for advice about the maps I'll try it now.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:24 UTC (UK) »

Margaret, Did you find the local papers? If you can they should give you most if not allof the information you are looking for, and would probably be complementary to a local map. Well done with the inquest papers.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Roger

The only papers I found were on the LFHS web site and I couldn't find anything. Should I be looking somewhere else?

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:49 UTC (UK) »

Yes Margaret, Your first call should be at your local reference library if you are in Lincolnshire, or a Lincs. Library if you are not. Ask them what papers circulated in the area at the time (c1860). They will probably have them on microfilm somewhere in the organization, start the day after the death and work forwards.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 November 09 18:22 UTC (UK) »

I live outside Manchester so I can't visit the library but I will write to them as you suggest. I love looking at old newspapers and usually get distracted and end up reading every page word for word.

Do you know the history of the fishing industry in Spalding as there were lots of other branches on this line who are fishermen and I'm sure that the fens couldn't have provided enough eels for Spalding?

I'm an historian so have to know everything I can about the area or subject I am researching. LOL

Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.

Margaret
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 November 09 18:35 UTC (UK) »

I just tried googling Fishing industry at Spalding, and found that the Coat of Arms granted 1230 AD incorporates a starfish commemorating the fishing industry, so it goes back a long way. Today there are fishing boats at Boston and King's Lynn which exploit the shellfish in the Wash. In the 19th century Spalding could also have been involved, but I don't know for sure.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 November 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

I always seem to use the wrong words when I google things. LOL

It does look like it was just shallow water fishing rather than deep sea doesn't it. I'll try googling it now. Thanks for the idea Roger.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 November 09 10:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi

It would most likely be Surfleet Reservoir, four miles north of Spalding.    It still exists and folks still have boats and fish from there so should be easy to find on maps.  There is nowhere in Spalding town that has ever been called a reservoir. 

You'll find it at Seas End Road, Surfleet on a mapping website.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:04 UTC (UK) »

I will look on google maps for the reservoir. They lived in Little London so it looks like they had a bit of a walk before they started work but I will check it first.

Thank you so much for the information it looks like I can expand on the story of his last day at last.

Margaret Smiley
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:47 UTC (UK) »

There's Reservoir Road, Reservoir Bridge http://tinyurl.com/yzjzs4s - but nothing that looks like a reservoir (unless it is the channel that the bridge goes over).

I says Reservoir on the map ... but there's nothing like a lake that I can see-
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=528190&Y=329195&A=Y&Z=120
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 08 November 09 12:11 UTC (UK) »

 Geoff - I live only two miles or so from The Res.  Trust me - it's there - lock gates, tidal flow etc.  The bridge links a row of houses to the outside world, but you can then walk for a considerable way past or across the lock gates and along the river banks.

There is not a lake as you would maybe expect to find - but the whole area has always been called The Res. The lock gates operate to regulate the amount of tidal water in the River Glen which if not monitored would flood the whole village right up to the A16 and beyond.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 November 09 12:16 UTC (UK) »

Geoff - I live only two miles or so from The Res.  Trust me - it's there - lock gates, tidal flow etc. 

I don't doubt you - but what is it? ... one of the drainage channels?  An empty hollow in the ground?  I'm intrigued Smiley

EDIT:  OK, I see it's just an area.  At http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx it's marked to the north of Reservoir Road ... and there's a Reservoir House too.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 08 November 09 13:58 UTC (UK) »

Most likely Geoff it will be a flood reservoir, and area of low lying land controlled by locks so that water can be allowed to flow into it and prevent or at least alleviate flooding in the area, rather like a controlled water meadow in some respects, you know those areas where people are allowed to build houses now.
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