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aggiebagwash
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:02 UTC (UK) »

I'm still not sure what they would have fished for. If it was a tidal waterway what fish would they have caught?

He must have been fishing near the Ship Inn as that's where the inquest was held.

I've found a few web sites that say shell fish and others carp etc. Do you think if I wrote to the library they would be able to tell me?

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »

A tidal waterway would have eels, crabs and other fish. Possibly they went out into the Wash in small boats to dig for shellfish, mussels, cockles and whelks. Certainly worth getting in touch with the local library, they might know. Also might be worth trying Lincolnshire Museum.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:39 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Roger as an historian I really enjoy researching occupations so I will write to both the library and museum. So he may have been an inshore fisherman and moved to the Reservoir as the season progressed. I will enjoy researching it.

Thank you so much for the advice.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »

Margaret, if I'm right about the reservoir it would be empty or at least a mudpatch at least 10 months a year. This of course would not stop fish being stranded in it when it was emptied, and therefore very easily caught.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 November 09 15:14 UTC (UK) »

We have a caravan near the Wyre river (about 15 miles from Blackpool) it's a tidal river but I've never seen anyone fishing except with lines. Further up the coast in Morcambe Bay it's cockle fishing so you are probably right.


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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

Sorry to intervene again - there is no reservoir as you would imagine one to be, nor is it anything resembling a mudpatch, ever.   It is a tidal river with high tides, especially in the Spring and they are quite scary to watch. (Spring bores)  The lock gates are there to prevent flooding and even they can't cope with the flow from time to time and flood out the bungalows nearby.  The river always has water in it in varying amounts.   If you sail down it far enough you will end up in the Wash.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:58 UTC (UK) »

Re flooding: I found this earlier in the day while googling
http://www.spaldingtoday.co.uk/news/Homes-wrecked-as-flood-waters.4969968.jp
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 08 November 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »

Thank you all once again for all this information you are amazing people. I've learned so much today.

I once saw the tidal bore on the River Severn and it was amazing so I know what you mean. So it would have been difficult to fish at certain times of the year and very dangerous as well.

I don't suppose anyone would know if they would have fished from a small boat or from the shore.


I would love to write a short article on the type of fishing in the area not the deep sea fishing but the local Fen land fishing. I wish I lived closer so I could research it.

Margaret
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 November 09 11:06 UTC (UK) »

Either a small boat or from the shore - both are possible.  The  part of the river that is near the houses are where the boats are moored, then past the lock gates and round the corner are the lovely grassy riverbanks for anglers or anyone who just wants to sit and soak up the silence. 

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #24 on: Monday 09 November 09 11:19 UTC (UK) »

It sounds lovely, so peaceful but what a hard life it must have been in the 19thC if he had to walk from Little London to earn some money and he was obviously ill as well. So far I know he collapsed and died that night but there is no indication where he died. It appears he died from bladder disease and exposure to the cold Oh! and the visitation of God of course.

His inquest was held at The Ship Inn so I presume it was the closest hostelry to the place he died.

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #25 on: Monday 09 November 09 12:07 UTC (UK) »

I should think they would have used eel traps rather than rod and line.

There was something on TV just a few weeks ago - perhaps on Country File - about an eel fisherman in Norfolk setting and collecting his traps.
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #26 on: Monday 09 November 09 12:23 UTC (UK) »

It seems more like what I had imagined he would do. This family are quite hard to trace as they were Primitive Methodists and I can't find much about their lives so any little bit of information is important to me.

Some of his children's marriages don't appear on any records I can find. The son that he was fishing with when he died didn't marry until his eldest child was 12 and that had confused me for months until I realized that I had the right names.

Hopefully the library will give me a little bit more information about the inquest but as I can't find an email address it looks like I will have to use snail mail.


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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #27 on: Monday 09 November 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

As i believe I mentioned in a previous posting on this thread, the flooding in February 2009 shows the danger of building or living on a flood plain, and yet we continue to do it, and then moan when there are floods!!
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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #28 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:01 UTC (UK) »

You are so right. The poor man in the photo must have be devastated when he saw what was happening..


The same thing must have happened during the 19C I wonder if they made provision for it when they built their houses?


I can't understand why people buy houses near a river or the sea if there is a chance of flooding but then I live about 800ft above sea level so I won't ever be flooded out. LOL

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Re: Spalding maps circa 1860
« Reply #29 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:04 UTC (UK) »

Both my brother and I were brought up at Boston, so we are well used to living at or below sea level.We both witnessed the East Coast Floods of 1953. Our last home at Doncaster was 85 feet above sea level,and was not flooded in 2007, though other properties (higher) in the area were; our present bungalow is 165 feet above sea level in Bournemouth. Where does my brother live? In a bungalow just behind the sea wall at Mablethorpe!! I just can't understand why, or am I missing something?
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