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Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« on: Friday 06 November 09 19:18 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone know a cheap and reliable compatable printer cartridge for this printer please?Fed up with paying full price, also the Kodak new printer would not save me money overall. Thanks.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 November 09 10:27 UTC (UK) »

Canon printers are already one of  the cheapest out there, based on the cost per page.  I would not advise using cheap replacements - they are often inferior quality.  I had a £350 laser printer completely screwed by using cheap toner supplies - never again !  Shocked

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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:01 UTC (UK) »

Yake the point Nick, but even so approx £40 for two cartridges is something of a blow.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 November 09 22:54 UTC (UK) »

If you do a lot of printing, you should consider getting a laser printer.  They cost a lot less these days, and the cost per page is considerably less than inkjets - Laser 3p to 5p per page, Inkjet 25p to 60p per page.

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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:00 UTC (UK) »

Worth considering Nick, but I only bought this last year.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »

I guess the pixma 210 was very cheap when you bought it?  The expense of the cartridges is a real bind, but you should be able to get a pair for under £30, eg at Euroffice (they also do compatibles); and plenty of other places; I have also bought canon cartridges at PCWorld on two for one - just a matter of looking out for the offers.

The pair (high vol; PG-40 & CL-41) are under £30 on Amazon with free delivery; I just looked.

I would also counsel not using compatibles; some are OK, but some really mess things up.

Also make sure you only print in greyscale unless you really want a colour document.  We have a Canon pixma mp600, and a dell/lexmark laser printer.  The latter has been going for >6 years and I print nearly everything (esp the screeds of genealogy stuff)) on that.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:54 UTC (UK) »

Thanks PJ. £49-99 if I remember correctly, bought as a replacement for a Brother where the sponge had filled up, though it was less than 2 years old, and it was going to cost more to service it than replace it. Throwaway Society Huh I will check out those prices, Eurooffice looks quite promising. Thanks for your help.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 November 09 22:11 UTC (UK) »

I'm convinced that they sell inkjets at reduced prices so they can make their money out of the inks.

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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 13:50 UTC (UK) »

That goes without saying, Nick  Cool I remember Christmas 2001, the local supermarket was selling a cheapo printer cheaper than a replacement cartridge (for the same machine!!). I ignored that and went for a Canon with a set of 4 cartridges.

A question I have just thought of, reading this thread, do laser printers dry out in the same way as ink jets? I have a B&W laser which is not giving any problem but one day the ink will run out... I don't print enough to justify buying an all singing all dancing colour machine so I would have drying out problems, but is it worth looking at lasers?

cheers, falcybe
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 17:29 UTC (UK) »

If I remember correctly the supermarket was Aldi, and the printer a Lexmark.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 22:42 UTC (UK) »

That goes without saying, Nick  Cool I remember Christmas 2001, the local supermarket was selling a cheapo printer cheaper than a replacement cartridge (for the same machine!!). I ignored that and went for a Canon with a set of 4 cartridges.

A question I have just thought of, reading this thread, do laser printers dry out in the same way as ink jets? I have a B&W laser which is not giving any problem but one day the ink will run out... I don't print enough to justify buying an all singing all dancing colour machine so I would have drying out problems, but is it worth looking at lasers?

cheers, falcybe

No, the "ink" is actually plastic, which is melted on to the paper with a heated drum.  When I started up a business at home about 6 years ago, I used an HP All-In-One Fax-Scanner-Printer-Copier which was based on an inkjet printer, but due to the warmth of the office, and the fact that I didn't do very much printing on it, the ink was forever drying out.  I've since replaced that with an HP 2820, which is virtually the same printer, but it has a laser printer at its heart.

The only thing you need to watch out for with laser printed pages is that if you put the pages in plastic wallets, the "ink" can stick to the plastic.

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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for cheap(er) lasers, then, especially with the low per page cost.  Smiley
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 17:45 UTC (UK) »

The point about plastic "ink" could be very important to those of us printing and preserving replica family history documents. I have some laser copies of 2 17th century documents involving my ancestors. They will get ultra careful treatment from now on.
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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 23:17 UTC (UK) »

I have just done a bit of research and decided I won't need another printer for about 5 years!
I have made a table showing the costs of buying and running both an HP laser printer and an HP inkjet one, paying full prices for cartridges, Redroger. I have assumed that the monthly duty cycle mentioned in HP's pages is the lifetime for the printer, basically because I couldn't find the life time anywhere and it also seems reasonable to start replacing worn out bits at the end of each cycle.
The full cost of the laser was £3,200 for 40,000 prints or £1,062 for 7,000 prints and the inkjet came to £475 for 7,000 copies (when you throw it away!!)
As Nick so pertinently pointed out above, the ink is the expensive part. 3/4ths of the lifetime cost of the inkjet was for ink. and 95% of the laser cost went in ink!!!
I am attaching a photo of my table to show you the nuts and bolts of my workings.
I might just buy a Canon pixma iP2600 for €49 or I may splash out on an HP officejet 6000 for €79
There you go, Redroger, you want cheap and reliable, you get a brand new machine for the price of the cartridges!!

cheers, falcybe


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Re: Canon Pixma 210 Printer
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 November 09 08:03 UTC (UK) »

I'm afraid that the maths falls down because no inkjet cartridge is going to last more than 2 years, because by then it will have either dried out or clogged.  That's why we opted for a fax machine with a laser printer, because we were having to replace the ink cartridges in the inkjet version every 6 months regardless of use, because they were drying out.  Because laser toner is powder and not liquid, it lasts indefinitely both in the machine and on the shelf.  We still have an inkjet printer here which we use for printing CD lables directly to CDs, and again we replace the cartridges every 6 months because they dry out (we only print a couple of dozen CD lables in that time).

And of course the best thing about lasers is the speed of printing - OK, the first page can take about 20 seconds because the print drum has to warm up, but after that it whizzes through the printing.

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Research interests:
Field - Luton & Islington
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Farnish, Parker, Cattermole, Last, Wasp, Church - Suffolk
Lewin/Lowin/Lowen - Hertfordhire
Martin - Eltham & Greenwich, Kent (London)
Stead - Greenwich, London (Kent) & Maidstone
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