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marcie dean
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Mary was born according to the marriage cert 1863 but her death certificate makes her born 1861.  She was born in Merthyr Tydfil, but as there are so many Mary Evans born in Merthyr Tydfil I didn't have a clue which one to order.  I don't have any census's to do with her as I was trying to work out what an agent could be and maybe get a clue from that.

On the marriage cert to Daniels Davies, Daniels fathers occupation was Farm Labourer and Evan Evans just said labourer.  23rd March 1890 Adulam Chapel, Hiawad Street. HuhHuhHuh?  Not sure of the spelling but in Merthyr Tydfil
23 March 1890 being the date of the marriage?  On the Marriage cert, does it have an address for the couple after the reading of the banns. marcie
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:39 UTC (UK) »

I guessed with the 1870 agent as he was dead in 1890, so kind of hedged my bets so to speak.

The address for Mary on her marriage cert was, Gwainfarren House.
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:41 UTC (UK) »

And Daniel lived 1 Canal Bank, Aberdulias
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Yes, 23rd March 1890 was the date of the marriage.

Chloe
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marcie dean
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 07 November 09 18:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chloe,
In that case I will list only the ones from Glamorganshire on my next posting to close down the choices.
marcie
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 07 November 09 18:45 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks Marcie.
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marcie dean
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 07 November 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chloe,
This may not be of any help to you at all but here goes:

1851 Census
Evan Evans Aged 59  b. 1792 Hd. Prof: Agent Tirer Furnace Birth parish:Llanybie? Address: Big Row
Area Merthyr Tydfil

Evan Evans 36 B.1815 HD Agent Birth Area Glamorgan Address: Gosen Area:Neath.
Next 1861 Census: there is only one
Evan Evans  Aged 46 b. 1815 Colliery Agent Birth Area: Glamorgan Birth Parish: Cadoxton Neath
Address: no. 5 Swansea Road, Crown Inn, Neath

1871 Census:
2 Choices:
Evan Evans:34 B 1837 Hd.Prof: Shipping Agent Birth Area: Glamorgan Parish Llanharry
Address: 2 Windsor Street, Cardiff.

Evan  D Evans: 44 B 1827 HD Prof: Coal Agent Cardigan: Parish: Llandisiloy?
Address: Spring Gdns  Swansea Llandilotalybont?  1881 2 choices. 1 Shipping agent as before. marcie
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 07 November 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

1881 Census:
Evan Evans Age 56 B. 1825 Hd Prof: Agent Iron Works.  Birth County: Glamorgan B/Parish:Aberdare
Address: 1 Springfield Cottage Area: Neath

Evan Evans 42 B 1839 HD Prof: Shipping Agent Born Cardigan Parish same Address: 14 Sapphire Street, Cardiff.
If you look these up on the census a couple of them have a Mary either as a wife or as a daughter.
If you want me to look up a specific one and list the inhabitants I can.  Just state the ones you are specifically interested in.
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 07 November 09 20:59 UTC (UK) »

You are so kind and I do thank you marcie, but how do I choose which ones to look up?

All I have is the marriage certificate and nothing else, but if I could narrow it down to a couple then I could start to look for Mary's birth cert who was born in Merthyr Tydfil.

Chloe
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 08 November 09 17:44 UTC (UK) »

marcie, I haven't been able to find any of the census's where it states Evan Evans is an 'Agent'.  I am searching on Ancestry, is there somewhere else I can look?

Chloe
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marcie dean
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:07 UTC (UK) »

Chloe
Try the IGI or the FREEcen
Choose a couple at a time.... and check the details to see if they have Mary there.  If you can note the census year and deduct the age stated it will give you the birth year.  Also make a note of the address.  Keep all this to one side as it will have details of parents and siblings.
If you find a match to the info you know to be true, then you can go further and check the children etc.
The sites I have mentioned are free sites.  But should you become totally stuck, place your information you have found on here and someone who has more experience than I can help you.
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Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:09 UTC (UK) »

Thank you marcie.

Chloe
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marcie dean
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 08 November 09 21:11 UTC (UK) »

Chloe
If you write down Occupation in the space provided and if it allows you to do so, the place e.g. Glamorgan along with his name, he should turn up or at least only those men with that name and with that occupation.

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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 08 November 09 21:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chloe

Can you go back to the marriage certificate and let us know who the witnesses were please?

Have you found Mary on later censuses?  What information do you get from these?  What does she call her children?  Sometimes they were named after siblings or parents, so might be some clues there.

Were any family members or witnesses staying with the young family in later censuses?

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
Chloe7b
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Re: An 'Agent'!
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 08 November 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »

Hello Arranroots,

Mary and Daniel had 4 children Levi b 1891, Reginald b 1893, Margaret b 1898 and Llewellyn b1902.  These ancestors I do know about. 

On the marriage certificate the witnesses were Wm. Evans and the mark of Thomas Davies.

Regards Chloe
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