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lesleypacker
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James Colvin born Montrose completed
« on: Friday 06 November 09 22:42 UTC (UK) »

I have an ancestor called James Colvin who was born in Montrose in 1856.
He married Janet Cowie and Francesca Stacey.
I can only find him on the census in 1891 and 1901 which is after his 2nd marriage and he is living in Glasgow by then.All his children to Janet Cowie were born in South Shields.
Hoping someone can help me.
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MonicaLesl
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 November 09 23:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lesley

Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley

Is this James' birth entry:

JAMES COLVIN  Birth: 19 MAY 1856 Montrose
Parents:JAMES COLVIN and SARAH HERRIOT

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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MonicaLesl
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 November 09 23:49 UTC (UK) »

This looks to be James and family in 1861:

James Colville 58, Ship Carpenter, b. Stonehaven, Kincardine
Sarah Colville 38 b. England
Jemima Colville 9 b. Arbroatt, Forfarshire
David Colville 7, b. Arbroatt, Forfarshire
James Colville 5 b. Montrose
Robert Colville 3 b. Montrose
John Colville 6 b. Montrose...I think John's age should be likely 6 months, see below

Address:  5 River St, Montrose

Birth entries on IGI for the two youngest children:

1. ROBERT COLVIN Birth: 03 JUL 1858 Montrose
2. JOHN COLVIN Birth: 09 OCT 1860 Montrose

What is the occupation showing on James' two marriage certs for his father James (was it James ?!)

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 November 09 23:54 UTC (UK) »

1871 entry. Mother Sarah may have died by now:

James Colville 69, House Carpenter
James Colville 14, printer
Robert Colville 12
John Colville 10
Elizabeth McGregor 30, domestic servant

Address: No 17 Carnegie St, Montrose
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 November 09 23:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi Monica
On his death cert it states his parents are James & Sarah Mitchell but this is the only birth in Montrose I can find.
I did have his marriage cert to Francesca Stacey but can't put my hand on it right now
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lesleypacker
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:03 UTC (UK) »

Yes this does look like them
I found a death in South Shields for James Senior in 1883 which works his yob to 1801.
James senior was a joiner so the occupation fits and James Junior was a painter so I think that its a transcription error for 1871
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MonicaLesl
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:08 UTC (UK) »

Does look to fit doesn't it. Likely Sarah, mother's maiden name was given in error when his death was reported. Would be worth checking his marriage entry to Francesca as this would be info he would have given himself.

Struggling with the 1881 entry though!

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:14 UTC (UK) »

 Grin  Found the 1881 entry -  surname a bit messy, I'll leave as is:

James (Sen) Colern 82, widower b. Scotland
James (Jun) Colern 25, painter, b. Scotland
Jennet Colern 24, b. Scotland
Clara Colern 3 b. Hebburn, Durham
James Colern    b. Hebburn, Durham
John Colern 20, brother, painter, b. Scotland

Address: No 15 Tennent St, South Shields

Father and brother John help to firm up the family we have already in Scotland in the earlier censuses.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
lesleypacker
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:15 UTC (UK) »

I was only able to find him on the 1891 and 1901  and I have been looking for him for the past 6 years.
His first child was born in South Shields in 1878,his last child was born in South Shields in 1884,his father died in South Shields in 1883 and he married Francesca in Glasgow in 1886.
I havr searched South Shields for 1881 but cannot find him.
Many thanks for finding what I have searched for years
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lesleypacker
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Re: James Colvin born Montrose
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:17 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much for all that info
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