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Annie65115
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Eliza Wakelin or Wakeling
« on: Friday 06 November 09 23:48 UTC (UK) »

I've trying to find some details for Eliza Wakelin or Wakeling:

when she died
her maiden name

She is shown in the 1841 and 1851 Leicester censuses living with her husband William and their children; Eliza's dob around 1816, place of birth St Margaret, Leicester.

William and Eliza presumably married in the mid 1830'sish - their eldest child is shown as Maria, bapt 1836 in St Margaret's, according to IGI. William's place of birth in 1851 is given as Thurcaston, 1817; I think he died in 1860. There is a marraige on IGI of William Wakelin at St Mgts in 1835 to a Louisa Langton which interests me (Eliza was witness at a Langton marraige) but obviously the name's wrong! Or could Louisa be known as Eliza?

Eliza is in the 1871 census living with the Kilner family as a lodger then disappears. When and under what name did she die?

Any further info would be gratefully received! Thanks!
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Mike from Leicester
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Re: Eliza Wakelin or Wakeling
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 November 09 22:02 UTC (UK) »

Greeting’s Again. …Annie.

St: Margaret’s Baptisms :~
1819.
Eliza. Daughter of Thomas & Ann Langton.. …Bapt….6th. January.
.
The only Louisa Langton …14th.November.1838.
Daughter of Wm. & Mary Langton.

1836.
Maria. Daughter of William & Eliza Wakelin...Bapt....24th. February.

MARRIAGE:~
1835.

William Wakelin ~ Louisa Langton.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
23rd. November.
By Banns.

Possible Williams Burial details ?
Welford Road Cemetery. Leicester.

Plot No’. U.N. 1403.:~

N   1403   C   Stones   Joseph   1859   Dec   11   2   
Wheat Street   Saint Margaret   8248

N   1403   C   Wakelin   William   1860   Sep   18   Aged.44   
Leicester Union House   Saint Margaret   9026

N   1403   C   Evans   Henry Louis   1881   Jan   17   5mths   
Oak Street   Saint Margaret   46125

N   1403   C   Watson   George   1912   Oct   28   76   
Union Infirmary   Leicester   99502


Eliza’s Second Marriage. ? :~

Entry No.353,  APR  9, 1871, on Superintendent Registrar's Certificate
ISAAC GLOVER, 48, Widower.. Labourer, Of Chancery St,
Son.. of Silvester Glover, Frame Work Knitter.

ELIZA WAKELIN, 55, Widow. of WHEAT St,
Daughter . of JOSEPH LANGTON, Frame Work Knitter.
Wits: Elijah Rowe, Susannah Rowe.


Possibility …..Isaac’s Burial ?
Welford Road Cemetery. leicester.
Plot No’. U.S. 2049.


S   2049   C   Bowen   Charles   1876   Mar   23   2days   
Palmerston Street   Saint Margaret   35947

S   2049   C   Hodges   ---   1876   Mar   23   Stbn   
Bedford Street   Saint Margaret   35953

S   2049   C   Glover   Isaac   1876   Mar   25   Aged.52   
Upper Brown Street   Saint Mary   35964

S   2049   C   Orton   Emily   1885   Jun   20   16days   Willow Street   Saint Margaret   55718

S   2049   C   Orton   Herbert Albert   1886   Dec   14   1mth   
Willow Street   Saint Margaret   58796

S   2049   C   Milnthorpe   Fanny   1916   Mar   21   
63   Swain Street   Leicester   103076

Possibility……Eliza’s Burial details  :~
Welford Road Cemetery. Leicester.
Plot No’. C. B. 658.


B   658   FB   Thornton   Ann   1856   Mar   1   65   Lower West Street   Saint Mary   3349

B   658   F   Thornton   Thomas   1863   Oct   1   41   Lower West Street   Saint Mary   7808

B   658   FB   Glover   Eliza   1897   Sep   20   80   West Street   Leicester   40458

B   658   FB   Thornton   Harriet   1898   Aug   12   75   West Street   Leicester   41623

B   658   F   Thornton   Salome   1899   Dec   23   75   157 Hinckley Road   Leicester   43660


MIKE.
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Annie65115
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Re: Eliza Wakelin or Wakeling
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:31 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for that, Mike, some interesting food for thought there.

Eliza Wakelin was, as I said, a witness at a Langton wedding in 1845 (Elizabeth Langton m John Jeayes). Elizabeth and John's daughter, Sarah, married into my Kilner family.

In 1861, Thomas Kilner (Sarah's father in law) is shown with a "wife" Eliza. I think this is Eliza W though I don't think they  married. Eliza is then living with Sarah nee Jayes and the younger Thomas Kilner in 1871.

The two Thomas's share their grave with, amongst others, Maria Stones d 1874 age 39; I think this is Eliza's daughter Maria who married william Stones some time around 1858 - 1860ish. Can you link that with Joseph Stones? Was Joseph Maria's son?


I hadn't found Eliza's possible marraige to Isaac Glover. I had however found the Eliza Glover you mention buried with the Thornton family and discounted her as she was living with Harriet Thornton as a sister as times that don't match with E Wakelin. However I had twigged that there may have been a name change to Glover because another Kilner baby, Elizabeth d 1892, shares a grave with Eliza Glover d 1887 age 74!

So do I understand you correctly, and would your resources back up this supposition:
Eliza Langton (father's first name in doubt, that will be another thread I think!), m William Wakelin
Their daughter Maria m William Stones - children included John Henry d 1870 (buried with Maria and the Kilners) and maybe Joseph d 1859?
William Wakelin died, buried with ?Maria's son
Maria died, buried with the Kilners
Eliza poss living as Eliza Kilner in 1861 and def as Eliza Wakelin but with the Kilners in 1871
Eliza marries Isaac Glover 1871 (the Kilner family did live in Wheat St btw - what was the date of the 1871 census?)
Eliza Glover died in 1887, buried with another Kilner baby

The Langtons are going to be another puzzle but my money is on Joseph L being Eliza's father - I'll come back to that!

Thanks for the help so far!


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Annie65115
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Re: Eliza Wakelin or Wakeling
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:33 UTC (UK) »

(prev post scrapped)

Looks like it's coming together now Smiley

Joseph Langton and Mary had several children bapt in St Mary de Castro, inc Elizabeth (b and d 1812), Eliza (1815), Ann, John, Elizabeth and William.

Elizabeth was my direct ancestor - looks like Eliza was her older sister and became Eliza Wakelin.

Is there a marraige to be found?
« Last Edit: Sunday 08 November 09 16:57 UTC (UK) by Annie65115 » Logged

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