Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Monday 23 November 09 06:55 UTC (UK)
Welcome Home Help Surnames Library Shop Search Login Register
Search Images 

Online
 
  First Name(s)

Last Name

 
News: RootsChat has moved to a new home RootsChat has moved onto a new server, so we may have a few teething problems.

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  England (Counties as in 1851-1901)
| |-+  England - General
| | |-+  Hampshire & Isle of Wight
| | | |-+  Hampshire & IOW Lookup Requests (Moderator: Little Nell)
| | | | |-+  Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)  (Read 132 times)
joanna69
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 46


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« on: Saturday 07 November 09 00:15 UTC (UK) »

This lady says on census returns that she was born in 1829 in Pennington (though once she says Milford). I have looked on the LDS site but come up a blank for her.

She married a Gilbert Buckle in 1853 who was the blacksmith in Boldre. They went to live in Lambeth in London sometime after 1881.  Gilbert died shortly after their move in 1885.  Maria stayed living in Lambeth as a laundress and is still there in 1911 aged 82!

But I have no idea about her parents and its a bit of a brick wall for me.  I do seem to struggle with the IGI records for Boldre records and Lymington.  They don't seem that complete.

Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can give.

Jo

edit to add - I will get her marriage cert out to see who her father is.  But still at baptism record would be fantastic for mother's name too!
Logged
trish1120
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3445


My Amazing Mother 1912-1982


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 November 09 03:23 UTC (UK) »

There is a possible on the IGI;

Maria JEFFORDS
15 June 1827, Milford, Hampshire, England
Parents;
CHARLES and SARAH
On same batch is;
Jemima JAFFORD, 16 January 1825, same parents

Although I have been unable to find any of them on 1841 Census Roll Eyes

Marriage Cert is the way to go first unless someone has access to Parish Records

Trish Smiley.
Logged

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
trish1120
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3445


My Amazing Mother 1912-1982


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 November 09 06:32 UTC (UK) »

I was just mucking around looking for Jefford BMDs and found this death;

Sarah JEFFORD
March 1879
Lymington 2b 422
Aged 81

Tracked her only on 1861 census and she is married to a Charles.
I cant find them 1841 ( when possibly Maria could still be at home) or 1851 though.

1861 Census
Milford, Hampshire
RG9/665/14/22
Charles JEFFORD, 69, Head, Mar, Formerly Ag Lab, born Milford
Sarah Jefford, 63, Wife, Mar, Laundress, born Milford
Logged

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
bearkat
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3876


Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 November 09 08:13 UTC (UK) »

How about this family living in Milford?


Charles JEFFERY age 50 Ag lab
Sarah age 44
Henry age 19
Maria age 14
?Dinah age 6

all born in county.


Is Gilbert related to the BUCKLES bcalgirl is researching?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,417454.0.html
Logged

Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
joanna69
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 46


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 07 November 09 09:18 UTC (UK) »

Wow - thanks all.  I think the Maria Jeffords of Milford sounds very promising.  I don't know why my search didn't bring her up - I must have done something wrong..  Huh

I've looked at the other Buckle - not my branch of the Buckles as  mine are definitely from Boldre.  But I would suspect they are related going way back as its an unusual sirname and they live relatively close.  I will PM the other member to see if we can come up with links.

I am going to get out Maria Jefford's marriage certificate to Gilbert and see if the father corresponds to the IGI return found.  But its is I really think. I see also Sarah the mother is a laundress.  Maria ends up living in London.... as a Laundress (and was the same before she left when she was living in Boldre).

I will put a completed on this query one I get the marriage certificate through and can confirm father's name.

Thanks so much everyone.  Smiley

Jo x


Logged
trish1120
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3445


My Amazing Mother 1912-1982


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 07 November 09 11:49 UTC (UK) »

Excellent find bearcat Smiley
Good luck Jo. Please do let us know the outcome.

Logged

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
Little Nell
Moderator
RootsChat Marquessate
*******
Posts: 7258



Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 07 November 09 12:26 UTC (UK) »

This is an interesting lesson!  I've found these baptisms in a transcript, all in Milford, all with parents Charles & Sarah.

John Jefford 13 Apr 1817
Jane Jefford 31 May 1819
Henry Jefford 22 Jul 1821
George Jefferey 5 Oct 1823
Jemima Jefford 16 Jan 1825
Maria Jefferies10 Jun 1827
Edmund Jefford 14 Oct 1832
Dinah Jeffery 14 Dec 1834

Charles Jefford married Sarah Hayter 31 Oct 1816 in Milford

I wonder what the original handwriting is like?

Nell
Logged

All census information: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
trish1120
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3445


My Amazing Mother 1912-1982


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 07 November 09 13:07 UTC (UK) »

Excellent work Nell Grin

Yes, I agree the handwriting must be atrocious on some entries.
Logged

All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)
joanna69
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 46


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 November 09 14:41 UTC (UK) »

Superb!  Thank you.
Smiley
Logged
bearkat
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3876


Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 07 November 09 17:30 UTC (UK) »


Yes, I agree the handwriting must be atrocious on some entries.

I wonder if the spelling varied with the vicar who baptised them?
Logged

Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
bearkat
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3876


Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 07 November 09 20:21 UTC (UK) »

Gilbert BUCKLE was baptised 25 March 1832 at Boldre.  His parents were John &  Elizabeth.

I can see 2 John BUCKLES in Boldre

John son of John & Sarah born May 1800, baptised 8 June 1800 Hordle (the eldest brother of bcalgirl's Mary Anne)

John son of James & Jane, born September 1816 - he would have been 16 when Gilbert was born.
Logged

Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
Little Nell
Moderator
RootsChat Marquessate
*******
Posts: 7258



Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 07 November 09 21:39 UTC (UK) »

Quote
I wonder if the spelling varied with the vicar who baptised them?

Probably - and with his hearing!

Nell
Logged

All census information: Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
bearkat
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Posts: 3876


Census Info. is Crown Copyright, from www.national


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford)
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 07 November 09 21:47 UTC (UK) »

... and the ampsheer accent  Roll Eyes
Logged

Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
South Stoneham, Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING
Kent - BAYLY, BORERr, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Hert - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
joanna69
RootsChat Extra
**
Posts: 46


Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Re: Baptism lookup - Maria JEFFORD from Pennington/Lyminton (or possibly Milford
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 November 09 13:22 UTC (UK) »

Gilbert BUCKLE was baptised 25 March 1832 at Boldre.  His parents were John &  Elizabeth.

I can see 2 John BUCKLES in Boldre

John son of John & Sarah born May 1800, baptised 8 June 1800 Hordle (the eldest brother of bcalgirl's Mary Anne)

John son of James & Jane, born September 1816 - he would have been 16 when Gilbert was born.

Thanks for this!  Yes,  "my" John Buckle was born in 1800 in Hordle  Smiley  Plus he calls himself "John Jr" in one of the census returns so it makes sense that his father is also John. 

Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT
0.048:22