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Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD born in australia somewhere
« on: Saturday 07 November 09 11:37 UTC (UK) »

Elizabeth Jane Hubbard – . She married Henry William Partridge out here in Aust in 1894 in Quorn i found she is buried in port augusta and died around15.12.1911.   Her father was Thomas Hubbard from somewhere..
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Re: Elizabeth Jane Hubbard 1866 Halstead
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 November 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi janemck,

A Big Welcome to RootsChat  Grin

The age seems about 5 years out

PARTRIDGE William Henry 22 Single father James Charles PARTRIDGE = HUBBARD Elizabeth Jane 23 Single father Thomas HUBBARD 1 Jan 1894  Res of J H Berryman Quorn Dist Fro Symbol V 178 5

I also note there is an Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD aged 21 in the destitute asylum in 1891. She is listed as Australian Born. She is in the female refuge after living previously at the Exeter Hotel. I will be able to see if there are any further details a a later time if it turns out important.

I don't see a birth in SA although there are a couple of Thomas' fathering children in SA.

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Elizabeth Jane Hubbard 1866 Halstead
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 November 09 12:27 UTC (UK) »

Elizabeth Jane PARTRIDGE died 15 Dec 1911 Pt Augusta. She was aged 39, Married, relative William Henry PARTRIDGE, husband. residence Quorn. Dist Fro 362 54 (by this record - born about 1872)

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Re: Elizabeth Jane Hubbard 1866 Halstead
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 07 November 09 13:02 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jane & welcome to RootsChat

& Kris - if you're wondering - father James Charles Partridge- is subject of my topic that you've been helping with. That all started with Jane raising an enquiry on the Beds FHS guestbook.

regards John
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Partridge - North Beds;  Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Elizabeth Jane Hubbard 1866 Halstead
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 November 09 08:36 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jane,  The Eilzabeth Jane Hubbard born 1866 you've found in Halstead, Leicestershire, on 1871 census  is 5 yr old daughter of William & Emily Hubbard.

RG10/3227 folio 63 page 16

On 1881 she is with mother Emily who is now married to Sephen Bird

RG11.3123 folio 74 page 21

I have not found her on 1891 - but she most likely is not the one you want as father's names do not tally with the one from marriage details

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Partridge - North Beds;  Peterborough
Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 November 09 09:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane and John,

Yes I did notice the name John, and was going to see if it was connected - suspected it was but was a little late to follow up on it last night.  Grin

Also the details for Elizabeth Jane b 1866 do not seem to match at all.

I do not see any other Hubbards in the Quorn area. I do note that John Henry BERRYMAN (the person who's home they married at was the husband of Sarah Ann PARTRIDGE (William Henry's sister)

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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 November 09 10:35 UTC (UK) »

On 1881 census there are 3 Elizabeth Hubbards b 1870 +/- 2 years who have father Thomas.

Jane, how do you know/why do you think Elizabeth was born in England, & if so whereabouts.   
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Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi john
i cant remember where i got the abt 1866 Halstead from.  The name was from a history club thing here i went to they had all SA records and her name was the only thing that came up. nothing else is South Australia would show her name. But Pat in Perth did find that she is buried in Port Augusta here in South Australia and it states that she was a resident of Quorn here in South Australia.
So i just took the Halstead and starting looking in UK. will keep looking
cheers jane
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »

 Hi krisesjoint
Yes please if you could find out more. Where did you get this info from? I may have been barkin up the wrong tree with Halstead and she has been around australia all this time.  but hard to find, well for me anyway.  can i go and look where you found this stuff out or not. I dont know how you guys do all this. thanks very much
cheers jane
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 November 09 12:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane,

The destitute asylum records are on microfiche. I need a reader to try to make it out. Sorry I am not at home at present, and they are unreadable with the handheld. (Sometimes unreadable on the big reader) I am very curious to read this as I do not see another Elizabeth Jane in SA. I also do not see the arrival of an Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD into SA.

The burial does not list where Elizabeth was living, it is the death record which lists her residence as of Quorn.

burial record

http://www.portaugusta.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?c=131777

There is no headstone listed

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 09 21:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi krisesjoint
it is so sad these people had no headstone - i can image how much money it would have cost them. it still sad.  and i dont even know these people. do you work for a place that has all these records - you seem to be able to get stuff. i will wait to see what you can find for me on elizabeth jane hubbard - i will keep looking my end. if i find anything out will get back on here and let you know.  yesterday i spent the whole day typing out the story of james partridge down to my grandfather roy. tried to include everyone and see where they all were at certain times thru the 1900's.  it was very hard and of course not really finished and a lot of assuming went on in the story. but i got to understand the whole story of all the children and their children.  My grandfather was put into the goodwood orphanage with his brothers and sister - dont think i would be able to get any info on that one.  and just off the top of my head (because you guys know what you are doing), how or can you get a copy of someones autopsy.... i would like to get a copy of my grandfathers roy irvington - and see what it says - there is a story behind his death...... its on my ancestry.com .. once again thank you.
cheers jane Smiley
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #11 on: Monday 09 November 09 04:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi krissjoint
I am going to try and get a copy of Henry William and Elizabeths marriage certificate. see what it says on that.
Are you in Adelaide - if so keep cool its awfully hot out there, feels like its nearly 40 mustnt be far off it.  going to school pick up so get back on line later when it cools down
cheers jana
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 November 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »

Perhaps it was father Thomas that came from England & he married locally & had Elizabeth born in Australia. 

If you Google  with  hubbard site:theshipslist.com/ships/australia/

......you get a list of arrivals in Adelaide 1853-1856 that include Hubbard name, including some Thomas & some of them are from Leicestershire.

Note you can change hubbard to any other name you are interested in
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Bishop - Bedford; Hunts, Hemingford Grey
Allen - Hunts, Hemingford Abbotts
Clement - Croydon
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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD 1866 Halstead
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 06:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi everybody
god its hot here.......... look what i found out today about Elizabeth Jane Hubbard
Cheesy
Elizabeth Jane Hubbard was Australian born, her father was Thomas Hubbard.  In the beginning of 1891 he admitted Elizabeth into the Destitute Asylum, he could no longer look after her. She was a general servant at the Exeter Hotel at Exeter.  On the register of the Asylum in nice writting, (I have a copy of this) is written.  " Encinte, pernative father, Thomas Birmingham, labourer, who she stated wrote to her from Strathablbyn about five weeks ago and sent her a cheque for 2:10.0 drawn on the Strathalbyn Bank, which she had cashed at Mr?? J. Marshall's  house?? the cheque was on the Bank of SA - she stated that she has been subject to Epiliptic fits since 11 years old."

Some words are hard to work out.  But she was pregnant when she went there.  Her son William Hubbard was born 31.3.1891.

She left the Asylum in the October back to the Exeter Hotel.  Then in the next 2 1/2 years she has met and married Henry William Partridge.  Dont know yet what she was doing and what happen to her son William. There is no mention of her son after she left the asylum with him. Definately no mention of him once she met up with Henry William. He may have been fostered out or maybe left with Mrs Moore??

you were on the right track with the asylum story..
cheerrs jane

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Re: Elizabeth Jane HUBBARD missing baby
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 November 09 06:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi -I got some history on the Exeter Hotel and Mrs Moore was there, see below....... so the Moores left the hotel in1893 about 2 years after Elizabeth went back there to live and 1 year before she got married and her son disappeared............

The Exeter Hotel is located at 152 Semaphore Road, Exeter, on the corner of Young Street.   It began operation on April 19 1854 and still exists today. A Mr George Moore managed the hotel from December 19, 1888 until March 19, 1889.  Margaret Moore managed the hotel from March 19, 1889 until April 27, 1889.  Then George Moore managed the hotel again from April 27, 1889 until August 9 1893 when it was taken over by Alexander McAuley. 

The Exeter was designed by James McGeorge and originally known as the LeFevre Hotel when John Griffiths obtained the first license on April 19, 1854.  The hotel was originally located on the north side of Semaphore Road but moved to the south side and changed its name to the Exeter Hotel in September 1879.

cheers jane  - now what?Huh Undecided
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