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Topic: Henry Prangle b 1811 Broughton (Read 117 times)
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cjw66
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Hi,
Trying to confirm the parents of Henry Prangle :)b. 1811 Broughton.
Pretty certain he had a brother John 1809 who m Elizabeth Brown. There is a possibility but found no info to confirm that other siblings inc John & Henry so the list would have gone, William 1806, John 1809, Henry 1811, Jane 1812, Thomas 1813, James 1817, Sarah Ann 1820, Frederick 1822, Josiah or Joseph 1826/27. Believe all issue b Broughton. Possible that the parents were William and Ann  don't know any more on William or Ann.
Have walked the graveyards to try and sort it out but to no luck.
On 1841 & 1851 census for John spelling is Prangle, but 1861 is Bangle and 1871 is Baugh but when I looked at original can see it as Prangle.
Census for Henry are 1841 Prangle, 1851 Prangell, 1861 Prangnell. You can see why I'm having so much trouble.
Henry later married Sarah unknown maiden and had 7 issue, Ann 1829, William 1830, Hannah 1832, Henry 1834, Thomas 1844-1872, Edward 1849, Martha 1853. These children seem to have been born in Houghton which is only about a village away from Broughton. I seem to be OK with info from Henry 1811 onwards other than would love to know wifes maiden.
In the Hampshire area there are other Prangle's, some in Droxford others in Maddington, I don't think they are same line, if there is a connection I think that it may be decendants from higher up tree if I can get that far. There are also Pragnell's, I don't think they are linked either.
I did notice another member with a post: Levi Sprangle m Sarah Hack 1819 Old Alresford. I don't know if there could be a link with the unusual spelling getting altered over time through one link? But that's a bit of a long shot.
Would appreciate any help with the Prangle line. Thank you for your time reading.
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hampshire-grandma
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At Hampshire Record Office, found the following baptisms of children of William and Anne PRAGNELL at Broughton, Hants:
William Jan 19, 1806
Henry April 10, 1808
John Feb 21, 1810
Thomas Dec 26, 1813
James Oct 29, 1817
Sarah Anne June 11, 1820
Frederick Nov 24, 1822
Josiah Dec 25, 1826
and in the marriages at Broughton found
William PRANGNELL of East (next word not readable, but there is an East Tytherley in that area) married Ann OCAMORE of Broughton, 11 OCT, 1804, by banns.
witnesses were John OCAMORE and Thomas WOODFORD.
Name is spelt PRANGNELL in one place and PRANGNEL IN ANOTHER
I couldn't find a Jane that you have as born 1812. Next time I'm at HRO I could look for Henry's marriage in the 1820s. Is it on the IGI?
I am always looking in the Stockbridge area for my forbears, Houghton, Broughton, Kings Somborne etc.
Regards,
Grandma
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hampshire-grandma
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Have just looked on the IGI on Family Search, and it's all there including the marriage, but of course, you weren't looking for PRAGNELL/PRAGNEL.
The only Jane baptism around the right time is a Jane bp. 12 Sep, 1819, daughter of Isaac and Anne Pragnell, at Broughton.
Hope this all helps,
Grandma
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cjw66
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Hi Grandma,
Thanks for that. Sorry if I sound silly, do you think that these Pragnell are the same as my Prangle? The info that you say about in Broughton, was there any other surname that sounded like Prangle?
I just wonder because I realise that spelling was by how ever the registrar at the time spelt it, because more than likely the family couldn't read/write. But I wonder if the family said their name was Prangle, I would have thought that spelling would have been more like Prangell/ Prangall etc, then with the n coming before the g would give the Prang sound.
But if the Pragnells that you mention in your earlier reply are the only ones with a name phonetically like that in Broughton then I think you have solved it.
At least these Pragnells are in Broughton which I am sure is the correct location, I would rather believe that they are the link to mine rather than Prangle in Maddington & Droxford which I am certain is not on my current line.
Thank you so much for your help 
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hampshire-grandma
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Hope to be at HRO one day next week and will have another look. The info I gave you was from the Broughton Parish Registers, but is also on the IGI on Family Search. The marriage of William and Anne had PRANGNELL and PRANGNEL which is closer to your PRANGLE. The children's baptismal dates are extremely close to the dates that you gave.
It might be worth your while to look at the IGI fiche in your local library or Record Office. Info online isn't always exactly the same as on the fiche.
Next time I'm at HRO I'll look at the Broughton censuses as well as the registers,
Regards,
Grandma
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cjw66
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Hi Grandma,
The spelling that you gave for the marriage of William & Anne is very interesting because I've been trying to go a generation lower on the tree and come back up, this is what I find.
Henry b 1808 m Sarah unknown maiden, they the 7 children mentioned on first post. As you know birth certs are from 1837, so the youngest 3 are the only ones in that time, but Thomas 1844, Edward 1849 & Martha 1852 are all spelt as Prangnell...the same way you found on the marriage cert of their suspected grandparents William & Anne.
On the 1861 census Henrys surname is also Prangnell age 52 living St Maurice Wincester. On the 1841 it has his age as 30 so b 1811 but I think this is rounded to the nearest 0 or 5 which would then be OK surname spelt Prangle in Stockbridge. 1851 age now 44 which is OK surname Prangell still in Stockbridge.
As far as his brother John, I think that I've found his m cert Dec 1838 Stockbridge 7 305 marrying Elizabeth Brown (I am just going to order it) Surname spelt Prangell. But John & Elizabeth have 5 girls, Nancy 1840, Caroline 1843, Alice 1849, Emma 1856 & Lucy 1861. The youngest 5 births certs on BMD are again Prangnell. Caroline there are 2 registered that year in Stockbridge both Prangle, cant find Lucy's at the moment.
Maybe for all my unmarried life I should have been a Prangnell and not a Prangle???
There are several Prangnells birth, marriages and deaths in the Stockbridge area, I am interested in proving or disproving them onto my Prangle line. So far have been using FreeBMD. Would be interested to hear if you find any Prangle or now Prangnell at HRO if you came across it while searching for whatever you need.
I can't thank you enough for the help that you have given me, it seems to have put me on the right tracks. I am very grateful.
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Little Nell
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This is a name where I think a very flexible approach is needed. For all we know however the name was spelled by various clerics at various times, it may always have been pronounced the same: it was just a differnce in how it was recorded.
Henry Pragnell married Sarah Cooper in Broughton 28 Feb 1828.
Nell
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hampshire-grandma
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Have been looking at the 1851 Hampshire Census Index in our library, and the Pragnell/Prangnell (and just 7 x PRANGLE) entries are prolific in the Test Valley villages.
4 in Michelmersh, one in Mottisfont, 5 in East Wellow, 16 in Lockerley, 5 in East Dean, 17 in Broughton, 11 in Stockbridge, 1 in Houghton, 1 in Longstock, 66 in West Tytherley, and 30 in East Tytherley.
Don't know which county you live in, but a little holiday in Hampshire with a visit to the Record Office in Winchester should bring forth fruit!
Regards,
Grandma
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cjw66
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Hi dee-jay
Wow, yes that's the same family, have used your link and on there are 2 of my g grandfathers, so loads further back too. I have tried to contact John Lewis via the link. Also found John on another forum site. Couldn't work out how to contact him via the link nor how to add to the thread on the other site, but it had email address, so done it that way but apologised if that wrong.  (this smiley is me with computers) I so want to be 
From looking at the link it also confirms what I have suspected with William & Ann Ockamore but I have been worried because of the change of spelling from Prangle to Prangnell, but this is the same names that 'Grandma' put on a previous link, so this is looking fab at the moment.
I am so glad that I accidently stumbbled on this site last week, it is one site that I would recommend to everyone searching their genealogy. Well done to everyone involved with the site 
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