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Topic: Chesham Non-conformists PRs - HARDING (Read 112 times)
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Penn
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Looking for birth, marriage or death record on a Quaker in Chesham by the name of Thomas Harding, between 1750-1843.
JudyMC
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Orpheus
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Hello Judy
There are three generations of the HARDING family between the dates you specify.
Firstly, Thomas HARDING married Hannah RAY on 6 April 1761 at Whaddon parish church. They baptise a son Thomas at Whaddon parish church on 2 Sep 1764 then the births of their next three children are recorded in the Quaker Digests held at Bedfordshire and Luton Archives (Ref: FR2/10/5/44):
1 Sep 1766 Elizabeth dau of Thomas and Hannah HARDIN of Nash
30 Apr 1768 George son of Thomas and Hannah HARDING of Nash
4 Nov 1769 Joseph son of Thomas and Hannah HARDAM
Thomas the elder died on 23 March 1810. aged 72. He is described in the Quaker Digest (Ref: FR2/10/5/46) as a labourer of Nash in the parish of Whaddon and was buried at the Quaker Burial Ground at Hogsty End on 1 Apr 1810. Thomas left a will which is held at the Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies (Ref: D/A/WF111/96). Hannah, his wife, died on 7 Feb 1820, a widow, aged 83 of Hogsty End. She was buried on 11 Feb 1820 at the Quaker Burial Ground at Hogsty End. Hogsty End is in the parish of Wavendon, Bucks.
The younger Thomas married Ann (marriage not found) and they settled at Chesham where Thomas was a miller and corn chandler. They had 10 children born between March 1772 and May 1800. Ann, the wife of Thomas died on 22 Jun 1810 aged 56 and was buried at Chesham on 28 Jun 1810. Thomas then married Sarah KNIGHT, the daughter of Joseph and Hannah KNIGHT of Felstead, Essex, on 8 Jul 1813. Thomas died on 24 Jan 1846 aged 81 years and was buried at the Quaker Burial Ground at Chesham on 29 Jan 1846. Sarah died on 4 Feb 1852 aged 83 years and was buried at the Quaker Burial Ground at Chesham on 8 Feb 1852.
One of Thomas and Ann's children was named Thomas and he was born on 5 Nov 1795 at Chesham. I don't have a marriage for him but I can say that he died on 8 Sep 1843 aged about 48 years. He was buried at the Quaker Burial Ground at Chesham on 12 Sep 1843. The burial note (Ref: NQ2/7/3 at Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies, Aylesbury) states that he was not in membership.
I can provide further details of siblings should you wish.
Orpheus
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Penn
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Orpheus....
Thank you so very much! I knew Thomas died 8 Sep 1843 in Chesham and I have his two marriages and children, etc., but you have just supplied me with two more generations of Thomas Hardings! 
I hope it is not an imposition to ask if you could provide the details of Thomas and Ann's other children...the siblings of my Thomas??? I have been chasing so many Hardings for so many years, that it would be interesting to know if any of them were related to my Thomas. I went to Chesham in 2001 but I had no idea Thomas was a Quaker (or maybe not, if he was not in membership at the time of his death) until just recently.
Also can I assume that the church records do not go back any further than what you provided?
Thank you, thank you.....
Judy MC
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Penn
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Orpheus.....
I think we will have to assume that the first Thomas Harding you cited in the Quaker records is probably not related to the second one you cited because of age problems. If Thomas Harding (#2) had children starting at 1772, he would have been born before 1764.
I believe the last two Hardings are indeed mine and I am still very excited that I know much more than I knew previously. I am still very much interested in the siblings of my 3rd great grandfather.
Judy MC
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Orpheus
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Hello Judy
I do see your point! However, I have no doubt that they are all connected as I've just realised that I've made an error with the dates of the children of Thomas #2. These actually commence in September 1784 and there are only nine children. I was including the child Ann born on 29 Mar 1772 to Thomas and Ann HARDING who is probably a child of Thomas and Hannah HARDING. I will list all the entries I found so that you can work them out for yourself:
BIRTH DIGEST (Ref: FR2/10/5/44)
1 Sep 1766 Elizabeth d Thomas and Hannah HARDIN of Nash
30 Apr 1768 George s Thomas and Hannah HARDING of Nash
4 Nov 1769 Joseph s Thomas and Hannah HARDAM
29 Mar 1772 Ann d Thomas and Ann HARDING
3 Sep 1784 Hannah d Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham
6 Mar 1786 Ann d Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham
7 Mar 1789 George s Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
6 May 1790 Hannah d Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
27 Oct 1791 Thomas s Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
25 Nov 1793 Sophia d Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham
5 Nov 1795 Thomas s Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
26 Nov 1797 George s Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
9 May 1800 Sophia d Thomas and Ann HARDING of Chesham, miller
MARRIAGE DIGEST (Ref: FR2/10/5/45)
3 Sep 1786 Hannah HARDING, dau of Thomas and Hannah HARDING
of Nash, Bucks
Samuel BARNES of Little Brickhill, baker, son of Benjamin
and Margaret BARNES of Wellingborough, Northants
at Hogsty End
22 Mar 1809 Ann HARDING, dau of Thomas and Hannah HARDING of
Nash, Bucks
John MOULD of Hogsty End, thatcher, son of Edward and
Sarah MOULD of Amersham, Bucks, at Hogsty End
8 Jul 1813 Thomas HARDING of Chesham, Bucks, mealman, son of
Thomas and Hannah HARDING late of Nash, Bucks
Sarah KNIGHT, dau of Joseph and Hannah KNIGHT of
Felstead, Essex, at Chesham
11 May 1815 Hannah HARDING, dau of Thomas and Ann HARDING of
Chesham, Bucks
Samuel JACKSON of Aylesbury, Bucks, cornchandler, son
of Joseph and Martha JACKSON of Aylesbury, at Chesham
BURIALS DIGEST (Ref: FR2/10/5/46)
8 May 1788 Hannah HARDING, aged 3 and a half years, of Chesham,
dau of Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 11 May 1788 at
Chesham
3 Jun 1788 Ann HARDING, aged 2 and a quarter years, of Chesham,
dau of Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 5 Jun 1788 at
Chesham
12 Dec 1793 George HARDING, aged 5 years, of Chesham, s of
Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 15 Dec 1793 at
Chesham
26 Jun 1794 Thomas HARDING, aged 2 and a half years, of Chesham, s
of Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 29 Jun 1794 at
Chesham
7 Aug 1794 Sophia HARDING, aged 8 months, of Chesham, dau of
Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 10 Aug 1794 at Chesham
8 Mar 1801 Sophia HARDING, aged 10 months, of Chesham, dau of
Thomas and Ann HARDING, buried 12 Mar 1801 at Chesham
23 Mar 1810 Thomas HARDING, aged 72 years, of Nash in the parish of
Whaddon, labourer, buried 1 Apr 1810 at Hogsty End
22 Jun 1810 Ann HARDING, aged 56 years, of Chesham, wife of
Thomas HARDING a cornchandler, buried 28 Jun 1810 at
Chesham
7 Feb 1820 Hannah HARDING, aged 83 years, of Hogsty End, widow,
buried 11 Feb 1820 at Hogsty End
7 Oct 1828 Joseph HARDING, aged 59 years, of Chesham, labourer,
buried 12 Oct 1828 at Chesham
BURIAL NOTES:
8 Sep 1843 Thomas HARDING Junr of Chesham, aged about 48 years,
buried 12 Sep 1843 at Chesham. Deceased was not in
membership
24 Jan 1846 Thos HARDING of Chesham, aged about 81 years, buried
29 Jan 1846 at Chesham
15 Oct 1847 George HARDING of Chesham aged about 49 years,
buried 18 Oct 1847 at Chesham. Deceased was not in
membership
4 Feb 1852 Sarah HARDING of Chesham aged about 83 years, buried 8 Feb
1852 at Chesham
LIST OF MEMBERS OF UPPERSIDE MONTHLY MEETING 1820
HARDING Thomas Chesham
HARDING Sarah Chesham
HARDING Hannah Chesham Married to Saml JACKSON of Aylesbury
HARDING Thomas Jrn Chesham Disowned
HARDING George Chesham Disowned
LIST OF MEMBERS OF BUCKINGHAM MONTHLY MEETING 1813-1816
HARDING Hannah Nash Widow Removed to Hogsty End. Acknowledgement dated 17 Jul 1816
HARDING Elizabeth Nash Spinster. Removed to Hogsty End. Acknowledgment dated 17 Jul 1816
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Penn
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Orpheus...
I think you are correct that the child born in 1772 must have been to Thomas and Hannah; this makes more sense now.
You have been more than generous with your time and I could not be more pleased to have received such wonderful bunches of new information on my family. I see that you made a reference note to a will of Thomas #1, which is held at the Centre for Buckinghamshire Studies. Do you have any idea what the best approach is to obtaining a copy of this will? I reside in the US.
Thank you again so very much! Judy MC
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