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Topic: Can you help me find Samuel Edwards? (Read 186 times)
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SOLATIUM
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Hi
I have come to a dead end with Samuel, I have him born in 1857, registered as Samuel Thomas Edwards in Montgomeryshire, living with his parents and siblings in Worthen (where the family have lived since around 1830ish) on the 1871 census - (apparently the Worthen part of 1861 census was lost), I also have him on the 1881 census still in Worthen with his father and siblings, but can get no further, I am sure that he is there staring at me, but I can't find him!!
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks, Sam
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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I have started looking for his brother Thomas born 2 years later and in 1901 census I have two Thomas Edwards' one in Wales and one in England; one born abt 1857 and one born abt 1859, what do you think is the likely hood of Samuel going by his second name Thomas?
Many thanks
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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Hi
Yes sorry I managed to find this late last night and forgot to post here 
I am not sure whether it is him, but I will see about ordering the marriage certificate, I have found Helen in the 1891 census though, as Ellen Mountford with her 2 children Jane and Samuel, living with her father Thomas (that makes over 30 Thomas' on my tree!!!!)
RG12/piece 4595 folio 57 page 19
I am now looking at Jane Edwards as she is not on the census with her father in 1901. I have tried to find the boys, Samuel Mountford and Thomas Mountford, but as yet have had no luck.
I will let you know any updates and the result of the marriage certificate.
Many thanks, Sam
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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Funnily enough I saw Ellen Mountford in 1881 living just a couple of miles from where I live - fairly sure it's her but the age is out a it.
When you say you are looking for the boys Samuel M and Thomas M - is that in later censuses? They are with their parents in 1901.
If your theory is right- would it be Thomas who is married to Elizabeth who is perhaps Samuel?
heywood
I have Thomas born 1859 marrying Helen Mountford, I have their son Samuel Mountford Edwards in Nantwich, Crewe on the 1911 census (a lot of the children from Gravels Bank/Hope are sent away to work, my grandfather was sent to Tenby), he then marries there in 1915 to either Mary G Davison or Elizabeth A Dyas. I have Thomas Mountford Edwards (I think) in WWI in the King's Shropshire Light Infantry, but I could not find him on the 1911 census.
I can't find Jane on the census yet, but have her marrying at age 29 a Percy R Taylor in 1914.
I have Samuel (Thomas) marrying Elizabeth Richards in 1891 aged 34 and having 4 children, Thomas, George, Frederick and Mabel, I also have Frederick in WWI in Horse Transport, he states that his father is called Thomas, living in around 1914 at Paddock House, Minsterley, this ties up with the 1911 census for Thomas, Elizabeth, Frederick and Mabel. I then have Mabel marrying a William Lewis and having 2 children Ethel and Clifford, all still living in the same area.
Not bad for a few days work!!!! lol
Sam
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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Funnily enough I saw Ellen Mountford in 1881 living just a couple of miles from where I live - fairly sure it's her but the age is out a it.
heywood
Sorry, forgot about this bit, I saw her also in Yorkshire, I think that it must be her, as I do not think that Chirbury is a densely populated area to have 2 Ellen Mountfords born at around the same time, but I am going to check the bmd for her birth.
Sam 
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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I have an Ellen Mountford born JFM 1958 in Montgomery, which is about 6 miles from Hyssington.
Sam
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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heywood
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I have Samuel (Thomas) marrying Elizabeth Richards in 1891 aged 34 and having 4 children, Thomas, George, Frederick and Mabel, I also have Frederick in WWI in Horse Transport, he states that his father is called Thomas, living in around 1914 at Paddock House, Minsterley, this ties up with the 1911 census for Thomas, Elizabeth, Frederick and Mabel. I then have Mabel marrying a William Lewis and having 2 children Ethel and Clifford, all still living in the same area.
Not bad for a few days work!!!! lol
Sam
Hi Sam- you are doing very well and hopefully the marriage certificates will confirm that you have the right Samuel/Thomases 
AM a bit confused - do you have Thomas marrying Elizabeth in 1891 or do you mean you have Thomas who is married to Elizabeth in 1891
Do I have the wrong ones?
They have Samuel Arthur; John Lewis and Thomas in 1891 
heywood
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SOLATIUM
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Hi
I have Thomas (Samuel) marrying Elizabeth Richards in 1891 AMJ Forden Montgomeryshire 1891, 2 years after 1st child, which family do you have? Is it in the 1891 census?
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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hmmmm, not sure which of us is right!!! I will have to order the certificate/s.
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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SOLATIUM
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The last thing that I have which I am certain of is Samuel/Thomas on the 1881 census with his father and siblings aged 24 and unmarried.
I am getting myself confused now, I think that I will stop and order the certficate and wait for that to arrive 
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C. Antrim - McKillen, Kane, O'Kane, O'Neil, Coyle
Scotland - Barnes, McKillen, Kean
England - Beards, Edwards, Clarke, Chinn, Chatham, McKillen, Bruton, Insull, Morgan, Tipple, Jarvis, Burgess, Hall, Walker, Swain, Morris, Kean, Kingett, Davies, Ryder.
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