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Obituary look up please New Westminster BC Completed thank you
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 15:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Not sure what is available but I wondered whether there was an obituary notice for Ebenezer George Harris Marshall aka George Ebenezer Harris Marshall who died in New Westminster 31st July 1948, he was born c1874.
Also for a Gertrude Marshall who died Essendene 31st Ocober 1945, she was born c1883.

Many thanks
Rosie
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:51 UTC (UK) »

Do you already have the BC death registrations for these two?  Obituaries are really hit and miss and sometimes hard to track down if they were placed in smaller, community newspapers.  Based on my experience, published obits for us common folk weren't very popular in Vancouver until the late 1950s onwards.  The BC registrations contain quite a bit of information so depending on what you are looking for, you might find it there.

If you don't have the registrations, please let me know and I will look them up for you.

Regards,
Lynwen
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 November 09 15:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynwen,
Thank you very much for your reply.  I have the death for Ebenezer/George (which I have filed in a safe place and can't lay my hands on at the moment) but the person reporting it was a George Edward Marshall and that is all I know about this family. My mother recalls at least one female child visiting England around the 1930's but could not recall her name. They emigrated c1910 but I can't even find when/where they sailed, I was just hoping that perhaps somewhere there was some more information on them.
I would be grateful for any guidance.
Many thanks

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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 November 09 17:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rosie,

I'll have a look for the obit the next time I am at the library.  In the meantime, you could try emailing the New Westminster Public Library as they hold a lot of local genealogical resources.  They might do a lookup for you if you mention you live far, far away!

http://www.nwpl.ca/nwheritage.org/heritagesite/genealogy/library.htm

I did a quick search on FMP and there is a G.E. Marshall arriving in 1910 on the Victorian, departing Liverpool on 15 Apr 1910.  The incoming list contains very little info but you could trawl through the Canadian passenger list to see if it holds any more detail that will help confirm or eliminate him.  Be warned, the quality of the Canadian images is appalling.  Here is the link to the list on the Canada Archives site:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07fz/

It isn't indexed so you will have to squint your way through 59 pages.

Lynwen
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 09 17:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lynwen

Thank you for your offer.
I will do as you suggest and email New Westminster.
I must look at FMP passenger list, I don't know how I missed that one. I will also trawl through Canada Archives, I've just got some new glasses so they should help.   Grin
Thank you

Rosie
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #5 on: Friday 13 November 09 03:59 UTC (UK) »

I believe this might be the right couple although your age for him doesn't fit... Wife is Gertrude ( surname is Feaver, Lynwyn, so if that matches, you have the right couple)
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=9047  Says immigrated in 1910
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 13 November 09 12:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi JJ

Thank you so much for the census, his wife certainly is Gertrude Feaver,  Grin   Grin      You have made my day. They married  12th March 1910 in England so obviously didn't hang around long before going out to Canada.

I wasn't convinced that the burial record in 1945 Essenden was his wife and was hoping obit would give more info.

I will have to look again at the shipping records as I didn't spot them first time round.  Huh

Rosie
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 November 09 22:38 UTC (UK) »

They are in Calgary Alberta, the next Province over in 1911...If someone can look they might also be found in 1916, and see if there are any children in the household
also...Essondale is not all that far from New Westminster....
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 November 09 22:50 UTC (UK) »

Here's his birth, I imagine...
George Ebenezer H Marshall  birth reg MarchQ 1876 -   vol.3b  p.50_   Chesterton, Cambridgeshire

added...humph. just realized the death information probably pointed to 1874, thus date in original query...
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 13 November 09 23:07 UTC (UK) »

On the 1916 Census, I see George and Gertrude Marshall in Sarsee (which I believe was part of Calgary).  His occupation was listed as Military.

George, age 40, b England, immigrated 1910
Gertrude, age 32, b England, immigrated 1910
Irean, age 5, b Calgary
George, age 2, b Calgary
Leonard, age 1, b Calgary

Hope this helps.

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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #10 on: Friday 13 November 09 23:22 UTC (UK) »

Great Susan !  rosie99  should be extatic............Irean... Hmmm.Is that perhaps Irene?
Unfortunately the births will not be something we can ever look at, although within the 100 years...as Alberta wants an arm & leg for their information...

Military   Odd, because I looked for him in the attestations ( CEF signups ) I'll peek again

There is a death in Vancouver, for a Leonard of correct age, but the chances that the children moved with them aren't big if they didn't move there until retirement...( I find lots of Albertans in B.C. after retirement...well, most Provinces have a large contingent who migrate there...so beautiful...and warm...SIGHJ)
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 14 November 09 00:50 UTC (UK) »

I finally got to the library today and found George's obituary.  He was named as Ebenezer George Harris Marshall, in his 74th year.  He was survived by his wife, two sons, George of Burnaby and Leonard of Calgary and one daughter Mrs Irene Hetherington of Regina.  Also five grandchildren, not named. 

I too found the index entry for Leonard and looked it up - luckily, it was the right one.  He died at VGH on 11 Aug 1975, born Calgary on 4 Dec 1914, parents George Edward Marshall born Cambridge and Gertrude Feaver born London.  He was a retired Federal Civil Servant - kind of business listed as V.I.C. but I can't think what that stands for, any guesses???  Leonard was single and the informant was his brother George who still lived in Burnaby.  He was buried at Forest Lawn Cemetery - same as his father so I wonder if it is a family plot.  I can call them next week and ask.

I looked for Gertrude but couldn't find any matches.  Perhaps she moved to stay with her daughter after his death???

I took a copy of the obit and Leonard's death reg so please PM me your email address and I will send them to you.

Regards,
Lynwen
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Re: Obituary look up please New Westminster BC
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 14 November 09 01:30 UTC (UK) »

I had a double check of the 1916 Census and have noted that the name is entered as Marshal (one "l").  The transcription and the original image show "Irean" however I'm sure it is meant to be Irene.

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 14 November 09 03:01 UTC (UK) »

Hello Lynwen & Rosie

As he was a retired federal civil servant, I suspect V.I.C. denotes a federal government department/body. I will see what I can find in the library next week.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 14 November 09 04:30 UTC (UK) »

Found it under George...He was a caretaker at signup...b. Dec 29
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/482215a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc010/482215b.gif
worked at a school
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/2961.10/482.html

He came back in 1919 to same address as in CEF signup  133 14th avenue, but he is no longer at the address in 1920 so hard to know which George he may be...but you can look through these...
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/2961.html
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