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William Henry Penfold
« on: Sunday 08 November 09 17:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi, my wife is decended from William Henry Penfold who was born circa 1805 in Lyminster sussex.
he was a Master Mariner and married Hannah Dixon at Christ church North Shields Northumberland and was captain of a ship called the Pallas.

It is said that they emigrated to Canada and both died there.

does anyone have any relationship to this family or any information on Williams parents or siblings.

Malcolm.
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Malcom,

Unfortunately there are no records on the the SFHG databse for Lyminster and although there are some on the IGI, William is not there.

You might have the info on Canada already but I will put it down in case you don't.

In 1871 he is indeed in Canada in Richmond, Quebec
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1206865158640#givenName=William;p=recordResults;searchType=standard;collectionId=1551612;surname=Penfold

I cannot see him in the 1851, Quebec 1861 and 1891 census although there are other Penfolds that could be his children.

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Sean
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 November 09 18:47 UTC (UK) »

This article looks as though it has some information on the Penfolds.
http://blyth.journallive.co.uk/2009/04/history-project-gets-personal.html
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 November 09 20:11 UTC (UK) »

hi Swebby,

Thanks for your reply. I am beginning to think the William Penfold linked to the Blyth Penfolds,re Gordon Smith, is not William linked to my wifes family unless he committed bigamy. . I have been in touch with Gordon and his William married a lady called Mary in c1844  Our William did marry Hannah Dixon 1828 and they both died in Canada.
The problem is I  only found the one Penfold family in the Northumberland area when I was a member of ancestry unless i missed the other one. our William was still in Chirton Village,  Northumberland   in 1861 at least Hannah and the children were  I guess William was at sea.

Unfortunately I don't  know who William's father was but on the marriage cert. for the William linked to Gordon it stated his father was named  William also and that he was a farmer.

if you can help in any way I would be very grateful,

regards Malcolm
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 November 09 20:41 UTC (UK) »

On the 1861 census there is the following family

Cowpen, Northumberland
William Penfold 48 Mariner Newhaven, Sussex
Mary Penfold 40 Wife Scotland
Thomas 10
Mary 7

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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 November 09 20:44 UTC (UK) »

There is a William Penfold baptised in Newhaven 17 May 1809, parents Thomas & Mary.
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 09:54 UTC (UK) »

 From Newcastle Courant:

Between 1845 and 1859, Captain Penfold was on the brig Pallas, in and out of North Shields and Newcastle, carrying cargoes of coal etc to the ports of Hamburg, Brest, London and also Quebec.

On Friday April 18 1845, he sailed for Quebec, arriving there on 21st June, 1845.

On March 11th, 1858  The brig Pallas, Penfold of Shields for London stuck on Cromer Rocks yesterday morning but got off with damage to her rudder; She has been towed to Lowestoft.

No mention of his marriage,  However there is in the Courant on  Friday, November 20, 1846

"At Chirton, on the 16th inst., aged 10, George son of Mr. Wm. Penfold, master mariner."

Tom
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 17:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tom, thanks for your reply, we knew he was captain of the Pallas but you have provided some interesting information.
how do you find the info from the Newcastle Courant ?

The  penfolds are my wifes family but My ggg grandmother was Eliza Piper from Arelsford and married my ggg grandfather John Common in Winchester in 1819 when the 33rd regiment of foot were stationed at Arelsford in Hampshire.

is she any relation to your family ?

regards Malcolm.
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Re: William Henry Penfold
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 19:38 UTC (UK) »

Malcolm,

No I am not a member of your family. . The Newcastle Courant is one of 48 British National 19th century newspapers, which are available from Gale Databases online at Lancashire Library. Just go to the website and follow instructions to join the library-yes you have to join, you can't search without joining.

Tom
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