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Topic: HENRY ARMSTRONG b abt 1825; Brighton area (Read 198 times)
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janan
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OK Ian, looks as if your Elizabeth Stocker is out of the picture but I will keep digging on Elizabeth Jenner 
Jan 
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lizdb
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for what it is worth I too found the Elizabeth Jenner with young Edward and was quite taken with it ... but then saw Jan had found it too and posted... so we were thinking on same lines.
Maybe she didnt marry Armstrong. Or maybe she WAS Armstrong and used Jenner for a while whilst hanging out with him (around 1851ish) , then reverted to Armstrong when he disappeared of the scene. Young Edw/Hen never knew his father and so made up a nice sounding one when he married.
Oh dear, I am always making up different scenarios, but proving which one (if any) was the case is another matter!
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lizdb
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Here is the Edward Jenner's birth:
Jul/Aug/Sep 1849
Edward Henry Jenner
Brighton
ref 7 297? (the index has not commited to a number, the image is not too bad and I think that is what is says)
now it depends how rich you are as to whether you want to send for that cert at this stage, might be best to wait and see what other sleuthing we can do about him, in case we rule him out.
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janan
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Hi Liz
Nice to know you were also taken with Elizabeth Jenner and young Edward Henry
I have hunted high and low for them as Jenner in 61 but can't find them - not that that proves anything as she could have married someone else.
Will keep looking
Jan
I love making up stories too 
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lizdb
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- not that that proves anything as she could have married someone else.
The only marriage for an Elizabeth Jenner (in Brighton, but of course she could have moved) between 1851 and 1861 is:
Ap/May/Jun 1862
Elizabeth Jenner
Brighton 2b 248
with possible grooms of Henry Cruttenden or Joseph MAnn.
I reckon it is Henry, as in 1861 at RG9 597 4 4 is a family in Brighton consisting of Henry 41, Eliz 30 and children of which eldest is age 6. I cant see a Jospeh Mann with wife Eliz in the area.
This Elizabeth (now Mrs Cruttenden and we think nee Jenner) cannot be the Eliza Jenner that we were following (who we think may change to Armstrong!) because she is wrong age, says born Brightno (not Middx) and also no sign of young Edw/Henry (tho of course that is not proof in itself as he could be elsewhere)
However, I am pretty certain then that Eliz Jenner that we found on 1851 does not marry Henry C, and that there arent any other likely marraiges for her ....... all adds weight to the theory that she is Elizabeth Armstrong but doesnt prove it.
I'm beginnig to think the only lead is Edward Jenners birth cert.
It may:
a) be a complete red herring, as we dont know if this is the same person
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b) be inconclusive ie just show he is the son of Elizabeth Jenner, no father listed. We know that much already!
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c) may, just may, hold a vital clue to prove this one way or other. For example it may show mum as Jenner nee Armstrong, or it may have an address the same as where 'our' one lives later ...or something .... I 'm not sure what else.
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