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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 November 09 18:01 UTC (UK) »

Well I made it to the library but I'm afraid most of my information is in the negative.

Positive first - John Pattison is definitely buried at the Blyth Links Cemetery - 24th January 1872, age 74 lived at Blyth Sheds.  I also checked the MIs but there was no record of a headstone.

Joseph is not at Cowpen, as you knew, nor is he at St. Peter's Cambois.  He isn't on the list of MIs for Blyth St. Cuthbert's either.  There are only a few burials available for that church and none of them are late enough for Joseph.  I suspect many of the burial records are within those of Earsdon.

Given that his wife was living in North Seaton there are still a few places north of the River Blyth where he could be.  If I get to the archives this week I'll try one or two.

Almost forgot - I looked at the newspaper but there was no death notice for him.

Christine
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please Complete with thanks
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 November 09 18:08 UTC (UK) »

Wow, you have been busy on my behalf and I do appreciate it  Smiley.
I am so pleased that you found John Pattison is at Blyth Links Cemetery, so do you definetly think that there isn't a grave stone?
Joseph is a problem  Undecided So kind of you to do all this, many many thanks. Smiley
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 16 November 09 18:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Irret,

I'm pretty certain that John had no headstone.  The MIs were transcribed separately from the burials but as far as I am aware they are comprehensive and no Pattison showed up.  A lot of people simply could not afford the cost of a stone.

There were no grave references on the burial transcript but I'm wondering whether there is one on the original - at least then you'd know whereabouts he was.  I'll see what I can find out.

Christine
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #18 on: Monday 16 November 09 18:44 UTC (UK) »


Broadly speaking the River Blyth formed a boundary between Morpeth  and Tynemouth Registration Districts.

So a Blyth area death would have been registered with Tynemouth Reg Office, (via the Blyth sub-district office) and a North Seaton would have been registered with Morpeth Reg Office ( at Ashington sub-district office)

We have covered the options for burial places for the Blyth area.

There was/is a large cemetery at North Seaton, very close to where the colliery was !

Michael
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 November 09 18:49 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again to both of you, at least it's not the end of the road. Smiley Smiley
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 17:27 UTC (UK) »

Found him!!!  He's in Woodhorn Churchyard.

Joseph Moor (no 'e') Pattison 22 January 1880, North Seaton Colliery, aged 47

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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 17:41 UTC (UK) »

Wow  Grin Grin Grin Christine, that really is great news! Now Woodhorn, is that in a church yard? This really is exciting. Thank you sooooo much. Smiley
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 17:56 UTC (UK) »

The record of the burial was in the church records so I would expect him to buried within the churchyard.  Info on Woodhorn can be found here

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Woodhorn/index.html

Christine
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 17:58 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Christine, I have just looked at
http://www.northumberland-cam.com/churches/woodhorn.htm
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 18:08 UTC (UK) »

It's a great site for pics of our beautiful county and Woodhorn is a lovely old church - a good resting place I think.

This bit's for Michael, if he's watching.  I mentioned the cemetery at North Seaton when I was at the archives today - I was going to start my search with that one but I was met with blank looks - they'd never heard of it!  No mention of it in their records at all.  Have you any references to it on a map so I can show it to them next time?

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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 18:17 UTC (UK) »

This is probably a step too far, but I have to ask the question. Yiiikkss! Does anyone fancy donning their wellies and taking their camera on a hunt to Woodhorn Church yard to search for said grave stone  Undecided pretty please  Kiss
Terri
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 18:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Terri
St Mary's is on my to do list, might it bit more than wellies at the moment, a dinghy perhaps Grin. You can find some info and see some photos here http://www.rootschat.com/links/07id/


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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 18:39 UTC (UK) »

 A quick response to Christine's angle from Woodhorn staff on cem at North Seaton.... I think although at North Seaton, it is (also) called Seaton Hirst.

It is not in Woodhorn User Guide on Civil Cems, but their Anglican Parish User Guide lists Bapts, Marriages from 1903 and Burials from 1905, for Seaton Hirst.  So anyway it would have been too late for the target burial.

I am a public transport user ( drinker not driver ! ) When bus comes out of Ashington along Milburn Road then turns right onto Newbiggin Road(on way to Blyth) the cemetery is on or near that corner ( an entrance road called Nursery Park) But appears to be chuchyard cemetery, not civil cemetery ?

Gary, are you putting this one on your " To Do" list ?

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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 18:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Michael
Its been on my to do list for a while now. It will be like going home for me Grin

Gary
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Re: Two deaths Blyth Sheds- help please COMPLETE WITH THANKS
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 21:24 UTC (UK) »

Apparently there are MIs for Woodhorn at Newcastle library.  It might be worth looking at these before looking for a gravestone - especially in this weather!

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