Thank you for the explanation. I think I understand
It seems odd that they would be dated thirty years apart and particularly since I've also found a probate of yet another Hugh Salesburie of Bodyngharad Nov 11, 1623 (which does not show up with the NLW documents listed on their website anyway). If the 1630 Hugh S and Robert S were both deceased by 1650, and the latter one does mention 6400 acres and 20 pounds rent, do you think this means the dispute was settled by their respective estates?
Thomas Vychan S caught my eye because I found these:
1616, May 4.
GRANT from Hugh ap Thomas Vaughan Salusbury of Bodengharad, co. Denbigh, gent., to Robert Salusbury, his son, of a parcel of land called y kay melyn (8a.) in Bodengharad
BARGAIN AND SALE from William Salesburie of Rvg. co. Merioneth, esq., to Hugh Salesburie of Bodengharad, co. Denbigh, gent., of a burgage or messuage in which Peter Salesburie** now dwells and all barns, etc., belonging, in the parish of Llanvorovke, commote of Collion, in the liberties and franchises of the town of Ruthin, co. Denbigh
1573, May 7.
1. Thomas ap John Salesburye of bodeeharad, co. Denbighe, gent.;
2. Griffith ap Symonde of the same place, yeoman.
GRANT in fee farm of a parcel in the township of bodeeharad and hengoid, co. Denbighe, bounded by land called Caye Eva, by the land of John Mydelton formerly belonging to the church of llanvorocke, by the road leading from Ruthin towards pont vchell and by the water called cloyedocke.
1593, April 19.
1. Thomas ap Ieuan ap Madock of Bodyngharad, co. Denbigh, yeoman;
2. Hugh ap Thomas ap John salesbury.
BOND concerning possession of a parcel called kae yr deyntyr in the township of Bodyngharad, co. Denbigh, bounded by land called kae Eva, by the land of William middelton, by the highway leading from Ruthin towards pont vchel and by the brook called Clowedock.
1598, Nov. 25.
1. Thomas ap Ieuan ap madok of Bodynghard, co. denbighe, yeoman;
2. Hugh ap Thomas ap John Salesbury of Bodyngharad, gent.
GRANT of a parcel called kay yr deintyr in the township of Bodyngharad within the commote of Collion and lordship of Dyffrincloyde, co. Denbighe, bounded by land called kay Eva, by the highway leading from Ruthin towards y bont vchel and by the river klywedog.
Baptism at RUTHIN Nov 5, 1595 Peter SALISBURY s/o Hughe
Baptism at RUTHIN May 19, 1598 John SALESBURY s/o Hugh
Baptism at RUTHN Jul 28, 1601 Margaret SALESBURY d/o Hugh
I'm getting more and more confused. I don't see how the Hugh above can be my Hugh who died in 1661 because he mentions a brother William ap John and unless he was about 90 when he died the timing is not right. Neither does the scenario of my Hugh being the son of the John S baptized in 1598 because in that case he would died at about 40 with 13 grandchildren who were each left five pounds - a fair sum of money in 1661. He did have a daughter Margaret though
If only there were more baptism and marriage records. It seems to be a case of so near and yet so far.