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sarah99
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1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« on: Wednesday 16 March 05 12:34 UTC (UK) »

Any help finding the profession of Isaac Henton born abt 1781 in Sibson. He was married to Ann (abt 1775 also in Sibson) and I believe they spent all their life in Sibson.

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 March 05 15:03 UTC (UK) »


Greeting's Sarah......

I've had a look on the 1841. Census for Sibson but didn't find Isaac & Ann Henton...
But there was three Henton families within the Village
Richard Aged 60. Ag.Lab. ( Isaac’s Father ? )
W. Henton. Age 25. Ag.Lab.
William. Age 45. Tailor.

©  Crown Copyright National Archives.

So that was two - one for Ad.Lab.

I found the following Marriage :-

ISAAC HENTON. ~ ANN GADSBY.
Sibson.
1804. By Banns.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003.

I also found the following Burials in Sibson :-

Isaac Henton.
18th. Dec. 1854.
Aged 74.
Abode Atherstone.

Ann. Henton.
17th. Nov. 1843.
Aged 68.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002.

I did try Atherstone returns for 1841. But the pages were too faded to read...Sorry.

MIKE.
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 March 05 19:42 UTC (UK) »

Mike

Thank you for that - Richard is a possible for the father but I am 99% certain that W. Henton is his son - so that's really useful - as is the information on deaths. 

Thank again Mike

Rgds

Sarah
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 March 05 21:29 UTC (UK) »

Greeting's Again Sarah.....

Here are the full details from the 1841. census returns :-

HO 107 / 603 / 08 / Page 4.
Sibson.

Richard Henton. 60. Ag. lab.
Sarah Wife. 65.

Both born within the county.

Page 4.

W. Henton. 25. Ag Lab.
Sarah Wife. 25. Not born within the County.
Joseph. Son. 3.
Mary. Dau. 1.

All other than Sarah born within the County.

Page 8.

William Henton. 45. Tailor.
Elizabeth. Wife. 45. Not born within the County.
Joseph. Son. 10.
Aron. Son. 7.
Eliza Bates 5. Not born within the County.

The rest born within the County.

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MIKE.
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Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.
sarah99
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 March 05 22:35 UTC (UK) »

Well Mike - this is brilliant - it looks like you have found a first wife for William Henton that I had no idea about - i'm sure it must be him howerver it seems odd that when he married again in Leicester in 1846 he declared himself a bachelor not a widower. 

More thinking required I think

Thanks a lot though

Sarah
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 March 05 01:33 UTC (UK) »

Greeting’s Again….Sarah.

Further details……..

1851. Census City of Leicester.
2089/ 148/ 141  /8 / 27
Belgrave-gate
Markham Yard.

Names. / Status. / Age. / Sex./ Occupation. / Place of birth.

WILLIAM   HENTON   HEAD   M   32   M   ENGINE SMITH   SIBSON
SARAH ANN HENTON WIFE   M   25   F      LEICESTER
JULIAN   HENTON   DAU      3   F      GRANTHAM
MARY ANN    HENTON   DAU      1   F      LEICESTER

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001.

But where did the other children from 1841 go to ?

Think this marriage belongs to the Family :-

St. Margaret’s Church.
Entry No.447,  JUN  2, 1873, after Banns
WILLIAM RICHARD HENTON, 22, bach. BLACKSMITH, of PASTURE LANE, s. of WILLIAM HENTON, BLACKSMITH
SARAH ANN JEFFERY, 22, sp. of PASTURE LANE, d. of SAMUEL JEFFERY, BRICKLAYER
Wits: JOHN BILLINGTON,  FRANCES EMMA JEFFERY.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001.

Burials for Sibson Village :-

Names./ Dates./ Age.
HENTON   SARAH   17   AUG   1845   70
HENTON   RICHARD   28   OCT   1850   72

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002.

MIKE.
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Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.
Mike from Leicester
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 March 05 01:56 UTC (UK) »

Back Again.....

1851. INDEX ONLY Census returns for Sibson.

Vol. 2.

Index No. 171. = Sibson.

HENTON.

William. 35.
Sarah. 35.
Joseph. 12.
Mary.11.
Ann. 10.
Eliza. 8.
Sarah. 5.
William. 4 Months old.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003.

Looks like William and Sarah are still in Sibson in 1851.

So The William on the 1851. City Census might be a Son of Isaac. ?

MIKE.
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Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.
Mike from Leicester
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 March 05 12:44 UTC (UK) »

Greeting's Again Sarah.....

1861. Census.

Looks like William has moved to Loughborough from Leicester...

RG 9 / 2274 / 27.
Loughborough.
Cobden Street.

William Henton. Head. Mar. 41. Engine Smith. b Sibson.
Sarah. Wife. b Leicester.
Mary Jane. Dau. 11. Scholar.  b Ditto.
William. Son. 9. Ditto. b Ditto.
Ann. Dau. 8. Ditto. b Ditto.
Caroline. Dau. 4. Ditto. b Ditto.
Louisa. Dau. 2. b Loughborough.
Clara. Dau. 1. b Loughborough.

Meanwhile back in Sibson.......

RG 9 / 2263 / 82 / Page. 10.

William Henton. Head. 45. Ag. lab. b Sibson.
Sarah. Wife. 45. b Hurley Warwickshire.
Alice. Dau. 12. Haggler. b Sibson.
William. Son. 10. Plough Boy. b Sibson.
Charles. Son. 7. Plough Boy. b Sibson.
Harriet. Dau. 5. Scholar. b Sibson.

RG 9 / 2263 / 81 / Page. 8.

William Henton. Mar. 74. Tailor / Butcher. b Sibson.
Ann. Wife. 40. Dress Maker. b Witherley. Leicestershire.
William Biddles. Son-in-Law.12. Plough Boy. b Sibson.

©  Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004.

MIKE.
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Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.
sarah99
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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 March 05 20:46 UTC (UK) »

Mike

this is very interesting - but at least it shows that great great grandfather wasn't a liar and hadn't been married before - don't suppose there is another william henton in leicester in 1941 aged somewhere between 16 and 21?

I think I am going to have to make a visit to Leicestershire soon!

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 07 May 06 16:35 UTC (UK) »

(apologies for bouncing an old thread!)

Hi Sarah,

Isaac was an ag lab, as were every Henton I've found in Sibson.

I'm descended through William (Bn 1816, Died 1888) / William (Bn abt 1851) / Charles Henry (Bn 1889) - my grandfather.

Happy to exchange any info you need. Smiley


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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 May 06 09:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rob

How nice to hear from you

My William Henton was an engine smith and moved from Sibson before 1846 when he married In Leicester and died in 1880 in Nottingham.

According to his marriage cert his father was Isaac Henton, Labourer - I see from the IGI that two William Henton's were baptised on the same day in Sibson. I am assuming mine had the parents Isaac and Ann - does this mean that your William was the other one - child of William and Elizabeth?

They must have been related in some way - do you know anything about it?

I lok forward to your reply

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 May 06 13:00 UTC (UK) »

Sarah,

This is one of the handicaps of researching a 'common' surname! Now that you've sown the seed of doubt in my mind, I'll have to get to Leics Archives and see if the PR, and whatever else I can find, can shed any light about this conundrum, and whether there is any link between our lines (quite likely, considering how tiny the village is!). Smiley

I show 'my' William Henton as marrying 1837 in Market Bosworth to Sarah Higgs, then having 9 children between 1838 and 1854, all in Sibson: Josiah, Mary, Ann, Eliza, William, Sarah A, Alice, Charles and Harriet.

Of these, William is my direct ancestor, having moved from Sibson to Derbyshire where he's shown on the 1891 and 1901 censuses as a Gas Stoker. The 1901, though, shows his place of birth as 'Sysin' or 'Sysen', which has been interpreted by Ancestry.co.uk as Syston when it clearly is not. The 1891 gets a bit closer (Sibstone).

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 May 06 18:01 UTC (UK) »

So Rob, you think your William is the son of Isaac and Ann too? I suppose that as your William was married in 1837 there is no marriage certificate for him. This is getting very intriguing Huh

As Sibson is such a small village the two Williams are connected - I'm going to check out numbers of Hentons in the 1841 and 51 census and see if that reveals any clues and get back to you.

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 May 06 18:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi again - I've found an Isaac Henton in Atherstone in 1851 but he's a retired tailor - figure that one out!

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Re: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 May 06 19:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi again - I've found an Isaac Henton in Atherstone in 1851 but he's a retired tailor - figure that one out!



That one is confusing, given his age as 70 would put him in the right time frame.

I see him also on the 1841 residing with William Henton, Tailor, age 70, giving William a birth date somewhere around 1771. Possibly an older brother?

BMD shows Isaac's death as -
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