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Topic: 1841/1851 census In Sibson - Henton (Read 728 times)
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sarah99
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I'm not convinced he's the right Isaac - as why would a tailor be described as a labourer on a marriage certificate?
I can't find Isaac on the 1841 census - can you point me in the right direction please?
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Manchester - Middleton, Roberts, Bentley, Pieri. North Yorks - Middleton, Robinson, Shepherd, Peacock, Sigsworth. Notts - Wass, Durance, Lowe. Leics - Henton, Debrex (or Deverex or Devereux etc etc!). Middlesex/London - Messenger, Pieri, Roach. Sussex - Messenger. Ireland - Pieri, Collopy Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.co.uk |
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Pinetree
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Rob/Sarah,
Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs 
My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865. I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer.
Rob, I have a copy the younger William's birth certificate, he was born on 5th December 1850 and this confirms that his mother's maiden name was Higgs.
I have not gone back much further with this line but would be happy to help if I can 
Pinetree
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rob.loasby
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Rob/Sarah, Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865. I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer. Rob, I have a copy the younger William's birth certificate, he was born on 5th December 1850 and this confirms that his mother's maiden name was Higgs. I have not gone back much further with this line but would be happy to help if I can Pinetree
Hi Cousin!
I'd love a copy of that certificate if you could scan it. I'll PM you my Email address.
I've still to get to the Records Office to try to sort this one out but based on what Sarah has said, I'm doubtful that this Isaac is the father of 'our' William (Bap 21 May 1816). I want to track back another generation or two and see who his father was. I've a feeling that there will be a connection in there, somewhere. I know that IGI shows Isaac & Ann, but need to see the PR for myself! The only Isaac on the IGI film for Sibson was bap 29 Dec 1748, which would make him 68 when William was born - unfeasible to expect him to be William's father without further checking, but he might be Isaac's father.
My files show Ann & Joseph as having four sons - Samuel, Joseph, William and Alfred, but haven't followed the line any further. If there is anything you would be willing to share, I can swap for my line!
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Loasby (Norfolk & Northants), Alsop (Notts, Yorks), Henton (Notts, Derbys, Leics), Hill (Notts, Derbys), Shail (Ireland)
Poland (Galicia):
Gawel, Chalupa, Swica, Winicki/Winicka
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sarah99
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Rob/Sarah, Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865. I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer. Rob, I have a copy the younger William's birth certificate, he was born on 5th December 1850 and this confirms that his mother's maiden name was Higgs. I have not gone back much further with this line but would be happy to help if I can Pinetree
Hi Pinetree
We're becoming quite a merry little band - let's hope together we can sort these Hentons out!
I found this website when I was scouring the internet one day
www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/Sibson/index.htm
There's nothing there as yet but it says that history and burial information is coming soon - so this might help us in due course.
Regards
Sarah
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Manchester - Middleton, Roberts, Bentley, Pieri. North Yorks - Middleton, Robinson, Shepherd, Peacock, Sigsworth. Notts - Wass, Durance, Lowe. Leics - Henton, Debrex (or Deverex or Devereux etc etc!). Middlesex/London - Messenger, Pieri, Roach. Sussex - Messenger. Ireland - Pieri, Collopy Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.co.uk |
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sarah99
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Hi Pinetree
I'm glad we got that sorted thanks to Mike and you. I'm still of the view that the two Williams baptised on the same day are related in some way? Possibly cousins - ie William snr and Isaac brothers?
Thanks for the information
Kind regards
Sarah
PS Is it Mike from Leicester that helped - he recently was a great help with my William's wife's family too!
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Manchester - Middleton, Roberts, Bentley, Pieri. North Yorks - Middleton, Robinson, Shepherd, Peacock, Sigsworth. Notts - Wass, Durance, Lowe. Leics - Henton, Debrex (or Deverex or Devereux etc etc!). Middlesex/London - Messenger, Pieri, Roach. Sussex - Messenger. Ireland - Pieri, Collopy Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.co.uk |
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Pinetree
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Sarah,
It was indeed Mike from Leicester that looked up the marriage 
I think William snr and Issac were possibly brothers parents Richard HENTON and Susannah PEARSON that married in Sibson on 12 Oct 1777. Unfortunately Issac's bap. is not on IGI so it's a bit of guess work where he is concerned.
I have tried to piece together all the Sibson HENTONs from IGI and the other bits and pieces we have. It's too big to post here but I'll try and send it by PM so you can see what you think.
Pinetree
P.S. I amended my last message slightly to clarify who was who just in case some poor soul tries to follow this thread in the future 
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rob.loasby
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Good news, many thanks for the digging on this one!
On IGI, Richard HENTON, son of Isaac HENTON, had a brother named Isaac bap Bef. 29 Dec 1748 but I've not found any marriage/children for him.
Speculating, it is possible that he may have been the father of the Isaac who married Ann GADSBY. 
<edit> Also on IGI is a marriage of Isaac HINTON and Elizabeth PAGET in Kingsbury, Warks on 08 Jul 1771. So far, I've found that they had one child named Isaac bap 01 May 1774, Bur Jun 1776.
It is feasible that this may have been 'our' Isaac - Kingsbury is only 15 miles from Sibson.
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Searching for:
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Loasby (Norfolk & Northants), Alsop (Notts, Yorks), Henton (Notts, Derbys, Leics), Hill (Notts, Derbys), Shail (Ireland)
Poland (Galicia):
Gawel, Chalupa, Swica, Winicki/Winicka
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glen45
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Hello pinetree,
I to am descended through Joseph Barnes and Ann Henton. Their daughter - Sarah Ada married my great-grandfather Samuel Swindell, and have been investigating the Henton line.
I'd be interested to find out your connection.
Glen45
Rob/Sarah, Just had to join in this thread because I am also descended from William Henton and Sarah Higgs My connection is through their daughter Ann that married Joseph Barnes in Kingsbury Warks on 12 October 1865. I'm not sure that I can sort out the 2 Williams but mine seems to have been a labourer. |
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Pinetree
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Hello Glen,
Welcome to Rootschat.
Thank you for your message.
Sarah's brother Samuel was my Gr Grandfather. He married Susanna HATTON in 1884 in Fazeley. From the information I have gathered on the BARNES family I think Samuel was the eldest of Joseph and Ann's children and Sarah the youngest.
I don't think I have made much progress with the HENTON line in recent years. I would be happy to share what I have. I will try sending you my e-mail by personal message.
All the best,
Pinetree
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Pinetree
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Hello again Geln.
I don't think I can send you a PM until you have at least three posts on Rootschat.
Pinetree
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glen45
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Hello Pinetree,
Thankyou I have received your PM.
You are correct, Samuel was the eldest of Joseph and Ann's 9 children, and my g-grandma Sarah, the youngest. I have followed the line back a few more generations, but seem to get stuck at an Issac Henton. I cannot find any references to him at all.
So far I have
Ancestry Chart of Ann Henton
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+--- 5-Issac Hinton,b.Abt 1730,
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+--+ 4-Richard Hinton,b.Abt 1757
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+--+ 3-William Henton,b.Abt 1788,d.Oct-Dec 1870
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+--+ 2-William Henton,b.Abt 1816,
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--+ 1-Ann Henton,b.1840-1841,d.Apr-Jun 1903
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+--+ 2-Sarah Higgs,b.Abt 1816,
but I cannot find positive references to Issac, either by christening or marriage.
The Hentons are my current line of enquiry, so I will keep you updated with any news I have.
best wishes
Glen
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Pinetree
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Hi Glen,
Your Henton tree seems to fit with what I have so far.
On my PM I made an error in my e-mail address and when I tried to send you another with the correction it would not send. Anyway glad you got the first one. If you did want to e-mail me there should be an a between the second t and the b of the address I sent you. Hope that makes sense.
Pinetree
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