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Topic: Gypsies - help pls (Read 861 times)
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casalguidi
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Hi Julie
You need to follow/trace this family just as if they were a non-Gypsy family. There will be census, civil registration and church records out there somewhere just the same. They might be more difficult to find and there may not be quite so many births registered but the family should be traceable.
What information do you have already ie. names/dates/places?
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findem
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Hi Julie,
You may find that the birth was not registered.
My great aunt was a Romany, she married my maternal side grandmother's brother and lived at Gt Leighs, Essex. Last year over in the UK I met her daughter and she is of the opinion that her mother's birth was not registered, she said that none of the family knew her age or birthdate. The daughter also was of the belief that some Romany families did not register births.
My great aunt had an unusual first name which originally I thought might help to find her in the Free BMD, but to date I have been unable to find her in that site, although I realise it's not 100 % complete.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I thought informing you might be the right thing to do, I hope you are lucky and that the birth was registered.
Regards
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Dimps
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Hi Julie,
Have you seen the Maria Perrin in the 1881 Census - age 21, born Chelmsford (Chignal St James is on the outskirts of Chelmsford)? She is a domestic servant in the household of a lace warehouseman and his family called Tate. The address is 10 Manor Place, Hackney (could be Leyton) - it's in E10 in my London A-Z.
Deborah
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Linberry, Chatfield, Faulkner, West in West Sussex Towell, in Shoreditch and Exeter Spurling from Norfolk Bateson from Norfolk Snell, Lorkin, Norman from Suffolk O'Boyle/Boyle from Donegal Murray, McCann, Gunn from Sutherland Davis, Bute from Woolwich Census information contained in this post is Crown copyright: www.NationalArchives.gov.uk |
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casalguidi
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Hi Julie
These might be useful:
1891
Chignall - nr. the school
Frederick FEWELL head mar 30 ag lab b.Chignall
Maria wife 31 b.C
Harry son 7 b.C
Ada? dau 4 b.C
Lily dau 9m b.C
George PERRIN lodger widower 73 ag lab b.Broomfield
RG12/1387 folio 84 page 8
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1901
1 The Pit, Chignall
Elizabeth FEWELL head wid 82 b.Dunmow
Harry FEWELL grandson 17 ordinary ag lab b.Chignall
Lilly grandau 10 b.Chignall
RG13/1673 folio 162 page 5
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1901
90 Walnut St, St Andrew, Leicester, Leicestershire
James LAWYER/SAWYER head mar 36 blacksmith b.Chapple, Essex
Agnes wife 34 b.Chignall
Marie dau 7 b.Chignall
Marie TAYLOR visitor 1 b.London
RG13/3005 folio 148 page 11
James SAWYER m Agnes FEWELL 1890 Romford RD 
Is the above Maria age 7 the daughter of Frederick & Maria FEWELL?
Can't see any evidence of Gypsies yet though!
Casalguidi
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janan
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Hi Julie,
In case you've not got them in 1871. Regards Jan 
Cottage, Chignal St James
George Perren Head Wido 50 Agricultural Labourer Essex Broomfield
Samuel Perren Son 18 Agricultural Labourer Essex Chignal St james
Maria Perren Daur 10 Scholar Essex Chignal St James
David Wm Perren Nephew 19 Ag Lab Essex Chignal St James
RG10/1663 ED 8 Folio 103 Pg 11
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