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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #45 on: Monday 06 November 06 14:46 GMT (UK) »

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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #46 on: Saturday 12 May 07 13:47 BST (UK) »

Hi everyone

Don't no if any of you are still following this thread ( hope so )
The Wade family mentioned is part of my family history, i have quite a bit of info on them.

Sue
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #47 on: Saturday 12 May 07 19:44 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue,
Welcome to Rootschat - I am sure this thread is still running and i am sure you will have a few messages soon!
Good luck!
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 13 May 07 20:05 BST (UK) »

Hi Sue

Thank you for your post.
I am a descendant of one of the two Hesom brothers who were taken out to South Africa by the Wade family in 1850. It seems their mother was a Wade. My branch of the family settled in Dundee in northern Natal. 
I'd really appreciate any info you have!

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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #49 on: Monday 14 May 07 11:11 BST (UK) »

Hi John

Until i came across this thread i had no idea that any of the Wade family had gone out to South Africa. Looking back on previous replies it seems Elizabeth bpt 16.3.1817 Stonton Wyville is your ancestor ?
She was the daughter of Jonathon and Ann Wade and was one of 10 children. Is this the right family ?

If so , back 4 generations to a William Wade and Alice.
They had 9 children one of them a Jonathon Wade who would be your ancestor and another called Henry who was my G x 6 Grandfather.

You perhap's already have this info but if not i would be happy to pass it on to you.

Sue
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #50 on: Wednesday 20 June 07 20:59 BST (UK) »

I have been researching the Hesom line & found a few facts that may be of interest. My line is from Joseph Hesom born 1780 Willoughby, Warwick, England it looks as though he had a brother James. they both appear in the 1820's voters lists & the 1824 land records. In Willoughby church records it lists the following :-
Baptism George Hesom 22 DEC 1811   Willoughby, Warwick, England parents are James Hesom & Mary
Marriage George Hesom to Elizabeth Wade  28 SEP 1841   Saint Andrew, Rugby, Warwick, England
Baptism record for 3 children of George & Elizabeth are Robert Hesom 07 DEC 1845   Willoughby, Warwick, England 
Elizabeth Anne Hesom  01 MAR 1842   Willoughby, Warwick, England
Mary Hesom  01 MAR 1842   Willoughby, Warwick, England .
In the 1841 census George is listed as a builder. There is a death record in   Jun 1849 .
Then a marriage record Name: Elizabeth Hesom
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
DISTRICT: East London
County: London, Middlesex

Name: Owen Owens
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
DISTRICT: East London
County: London, Middlesex

I have since found this info.
Name: George Thomas HESOM
Given Name: George Thomas
Surname: Hesom
Sex: M
Birth: 5 Sep 1843 in Rugby,England
Death: 1920 in Pietermaritzburg,South Africa
Occupation: Councillor 1902 Pietermaritzburg,South Africa
BIOGRAPHY: - Hesom Street in Pietermaritzburg was named after him as he owned most of the property in that area.
- Both his parents being deceased, he came to Natal with the Byrne Settlers (in the Nile under Lidgett's scheme) with his Stepfather, Mr Owen and his aunt, Mrs Wade.
- At age 13 (mid 1850's) he traded in Zululand with his stepfather and Mr Vicar Brayhurst.
Father: George HESOM
Mother: Elizabeth WADE
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #51 on: Wednesday 20 June 07 23:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Sparky

My interest in this thread is the Wade connection. I am very curious about who the Aunt was ( Mrs Wade ) who accompanied the brothers to S.A.
Also in your message you mention a death of George Hessom and a marriage of a Elizabeth Hessom to a Owen Owens, do you think this is Georges widow ?
Sorry if i am being a little thick here but i am a bit confused who's who at the minute.

Regards Sue
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 20 June 07 23:37 BST (UK) »

Sue,
I found the info about the brothers & aunt mrs Wade in a tree posted on the world tree site by an Eric Bower when I googled the name HESOM. I was able to down load the file as a gedcom.
I think the marriage is Georges widow as the world tree describes mr Owens as the step father. I  forgot to mention the death record for George Hesom was in Barnet, Middlesex. The same district as the marriage of Elizabeth.
There was also a reference to a book about early South African settlers but I didn't note the title. I think I did a search on Pietermaritzburg,South Africa
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 03 July 07 19:20 BST (UK) »

Hi everyone,
Has anyone come across James Hesom? I believe he is the father of George Hesom who married Mary Wade. George was bap the son of James and Mary Hesom Willoughby Warwickshire 22 Dec 1811?  I am interested in Thomas HESOM who married Elizabeth MAYO 21 Dec 1772 Willoughby and wonder if James was a brother or cousin Any help would be appreciated
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #54 on: Monday 07 April 08 12:24 BST (UK) »

Came across this thread by accident.  I am intrigued by mentions of Bernard Malim Bowen as my interest is in the Malim family.  One member of the family went out there at around the turn of the century, and I wondered if there was some sort of connection as Malim is an unusual name and crops up from time to time as a Christian name; usually as a result of a woman incorporating her maiden name.
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #55 on: Friday 16 May 08 13:15 BST (UK) »

Bernard Malim Bowen was born in Bilston Staffordshire in 1864. His mother was Alice Harris Bowen nee Kendrick. His father was William Bowen. I have not managed to check out the Malim connection as yet, but the Kendrick name is used for two of his siblings. Both of his parents were born in Bilston. Does your name Malim crop up in South Africa or England? Peep.
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #56 on: Friday 16 May 08 17:21 BST (UK) »

Hi
Most of the Malim family are in England, but branches seem to have gone all over the world (just found some in Argentina!)  The Staffordshire branch are Charlotte Malim (born 1845/46 Grantham) and her husband Harry Barlow (born 1831 Wolverhampton) who had 9 children between 1870 and 1883 and also Mary Isabel Malim (born 1842 Brompton Kent) and her husband Frederick Messiter (born 1839 Frome Somerset) they had 8 children between 1873-1883.  Given these dates it would seem any connection would have to be earlier!
The family in South Africa (from the family history I have been given, not confirmed any details yet) are that of Leila Malim (born 1882 Wandsworth) and her husband Frederick Wilkin (who I believe may have been South African).
The Malim history I have goes back to 1533 it was compiled by one Alfred Malim who was a clergyman at the end of the 19th century.  There are a number of 17th and 18th century ancestors in there who may well have descendents somewhere, it's just that Alfred didn't find them!
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #57 on: Friday 13 March 09 09:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sue

I have just found this link. I am descended from Jonathan and Ann Wade's daughter Alice Wade, who emigrated to South africa with her deceased sister Elizabeth Hesom's 2 sons. I would be so grateful if you could send me the information going back the 4 generations to William Wade and Alice that you mentioned in your posting.

LornaJ


Hi John

Until i came across this thread i had no idea that any of the Wade family had gone out to South Africa. Looking back on previous replies it seems Elizabeth bpt 16.3.1817 Stonton Wyville is your ancestor ?
She was the daughter of Jonathon and Ann Wade and was one of 10 children. Is this the right family ?

If so , back 4 generations to a William Wade and Alice.
They had 9 children one of them a Jonathon Wade who would be your ancestor and another called Henry who was my G x 6 Grandfather.

You perhap's already have this info but if not i would be happy to pass it on to you.

Sue
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Re: South Africa to Bilston
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 10 May 09 06:37 BST (UK) »

Just was informed about this rootschat website by peep.  I am related directly to the Bowens discussed.  My mother was Barbara Bowen, the only child of Arthur Kendrick Bowen (as far as I know).  The south africa issue is totally new to me and i will have to read the chats to come up to speed.  I at  least think I know who Bernard Malim Bowen is, although he never shows up in the census with William Bowen (1881, 1891).  Bernard Malim Bowen, Percy St John Bowen and Ida Constance Bowen are my grandfathers (Arthur Kendrick Bowen) siblings.  Therefore I am very interested in their lives and records in South Africa.  Hope to relate more as I understand what is to me a whole new research topic!

Stephen Wood, Roseburg, Oregon, USA
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