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South Africa to Bilston
« on: Thursday 17 March 05 15:09 UTC (UK) »

In my great grandfathers house during the 1901 census there was  a visitor from Natal . Her name was Mary  E Teasdale aged 23 and single. As I have not been able to find her I presume she was born in South Africa. I would very much like to know who her family  were. Four years later   Ida Constance Bowen (my great aunt) married a chap called Robert Hesom and they emmigrated to Natal .I have  found 2 Hesoms on The Nile shipin 1850 going to Durban. Can anybody give me any info on this family?                                     
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Re: SOUTH AFRICA TO BILSTON!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 March 05 07:51 UTC (UK) »

hi there,
Sorry i cannot find anything on Mary Teasdale except this death motice for her in 1954
DESCRIPTION          SHOESMITH, MARY EDITH. FORMERLY MELDRUM. FORMERLY WILSON. BORN                   TEASDALE. BORN IN PIETERMARITZBURG, NATAL.
I got a bit confused with your Hesom family - when did they come out? in 1905 or 1850.
Many thanks
Ruth
                   
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Re: SOUTH AFRICA TO BILSTON!
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 March 05 13:22 UTC (UK) »

thanks for your reply regarding Mary E Teasdale but I think that this is the wrong person. My Mary was born in 1878 or thereabouts. I have found that a G W Teasdale wasin the Boer war1899 1902. Maybe a relative? With regard to Hesom. Robert Hesom was acorporal in that same war and he returned to Natal with his  wife Ida in 1905, he was 31 and she was 25. I think that some of his family were already there as i have found a G T hesom  and a R hesom on The Nile ship in 1850 going to Natal. Roberts  father was a G T. Any info would be most welcome. Many thanks. Ps the sun is shining in England today!
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Re: SOUTH AFRICA TO BILSTON!
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 March 05 14:00 UTC (UK) »

have a look at the Archives
http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300ds?20050323154753C7A1BB60
This is a search I did for Hesoms - double click each entry. Where there is a single name ,and probably the ref letters msce, - it means this is the death notice for the person. Letters ssp are surviving spouse, and pds means predeased spouse. It may be worthwhile to get GT's deaths notice as it will list all the children. Illiquid cases are divorce or legal cases. Have fun playing around with the search engine - select hesom and individual names.
If you get stuck give me a shout!
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 March 05 14:27 UTC (UK) »

these are all the Hesoms in the phone book in SA- and I was at school with a few of them. Just need to find out where they are! The 03 numbers are Natal ie 9 of them- looks like there are Hesoms still living  in Estcourt so will phone when I am up there. not too difficult a task.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 April 05 11:20 UTC (UK) »

hi there. Many thanks for the info on the Hesom family. G T Hesom must have been quite a pioneer. I am sifting through all info but i cannot make out if he was born in England or S.A. Your info has also unearthed another of my relatives that i have been trying to trace. I would still like to find out when Ida constance Hesom died and did she have any children.  Iam also trying to trace another chap called Percy St John Bowen. Iwonder if he came your way late  1800s or so. Cheers. All the best.
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 August 05 12:30 UTC (UK) »

Hello Ruth. The Mary Teasdale that you found was the correct person after all. I applied for a death notice of Bernard Malim Bowen and she appeared as Executrix of his will dated  12/9/99 and he died on 28/3/00 at Lidgetton after being wounded at Ladysmith.  On the death notice itself his name is down as Bill Bowen. Why would this be? His rank or proffession merely is down as R.S.M. Any ideas as to what this means? Mary must have meant something to my family to have turned up in their house in England almost 2 years later. I have been told i can apply for aDeceased Estate Files. What would they tell me ,and how do i go about this? All of my investigation started when my last survivng  ancient uncle said "I  wish i knew something about my family" That was last year. Unfortunately he has recently died, but i am hooked.

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 20 August 05 17:04 UTC (UK) »

Just my two cents worth - R.S.M. - if he was in the army it's Regimental Sergent Major.  My father was one.  Again on my dad - his name was Charles Henry, but he consistently went by Bill - no idea why.  If I had not know differently I would have used that name to register his death - so perhaps whoever did that only put down what they knew his name to be?

Also if you ever find Mary's connection to the name MELDRUM I'd love for you to post it. My great grandmother's maiden name was MELDRUM from Hartlepool, County Durham.  She also lived in S.A. from abt. 1882-1889, but I believe she went by the last name of WALLER by then.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 11:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Linda. I have found that Mary was married to a chap called William Meldrum who died in 1925. If you look on the Pietermaritzburg Archives Repository site there you will find loads of Meldrums and Wallers .Peep.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 24 August 05 13:06 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Peep, I will try that one.  So far all my leads have turned out to be the wrong ones, but I'll keep trying!
Linda.
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 February 06 14:56 UTC (UK) »

I have looked at the burial index and seen that the Teasdale family are all buried in the lidgeton area - so the most likely explanation is that Mary was probably a girlfriend who nursed him after he was injured.
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Re: SOUTH AFRICA TO BILSTON!
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 20 July 06 12:56 UTC (UK) »

Hello to all Hesom and related family searchers/researchers!  This is my first visit to this site, it wasn't here last time I did a Hesom search, so this is very exciting!  In reply to one of the enquiries about Robert and Ida Constance Hesom (nee Bowen) - they were my grandparents.  Robert was born in South Africa and he and Ida met when he was invited to ride behind Queen Victoria's carriage on the occasion of her Silver Jubilee.  I understand that they returned to South Africa in 1907 when my father, Bernard (their firstborn) was six months old.  They had two other surviving children out of five born to them, Leonie and Jack.  They lived a rather nomadic life stretching from Harrismith to Natal to the Kimberley diamond fields to Knysna and onward to  Northern Rhodesia. Robert died in 1948 in Luanshya, Northern Rhodesia and Ida in about 1968 in Cape Town.    I am in possession of a sketchy family tree which includes Wades, Arbuthnots and others that I would need to look up.  I also have a couple of early newspaper clippings about early Hesoms in the Pietermaritzburg area.  I would love to connect up with any of you who are distant relatives and exchange info!
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Re: SOUTH AFRICA TO BILSTON!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 August 06 12:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi I got into your chat and saw that you wanted info on the Hesom family, that is my grandfather's name. His grandfather was GTHesom. They lived in Pietermaritzburg. There were 2 boys that were sent out to SA by their mother to be raised by the Wade family from Dundee. As far as I can remember from my mothers stories he was quite wealthy when he died, having worked as a transport rider from Durban up to the goldfields. If I can be of any help please call back. My name is Marion Johansson.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 August 06 12:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Marion,
Thank you so much for responding.  Yes I am very keen to know anything and everything about the Hesom family.  I know that the two brothers were very active in the late 1800s and early 1900s in the Maritzburg, Dundee, etc areas and that there is a street named after one of them in Maritzburg.  What is your grandfather's first name?  He is very likely my father's cousin.  Am a bit pushed for time at the moment, but would love to continue with this conversation as soon as time permits.  Till then .. Kind regards, Rosie
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 August 06 19:57 UTC (UK) »

My grandfather's name was George Plummer Cyril Hesom. He had 2 brothers and 2 sisters. My mum was a Rae Cynthia Hesom now Montgomery, and her older sister was Wendy Belle Hesom. If you want to know more I will contact my mum and find out more. I have a second cousin in England who is the daughter of Grandfather's younger brother. Marion
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