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Ann E
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Passenger list Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT completed .
« on: Tuesday 09 February 10 00:44 UTC (UK) »

Please can anyone help? I am looking for Arthur COOPER born 1893 who went to Melbourne Australia on the “Norseman”? About 1912/ 1913 with Frederick WRIGHT born about 1890/91, both from the Isle of Wight.

Thank you.
I have searched but not found anything.

Ann E
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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 01:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

There's an Arthur Cooper, born Ryde, I o W, and in Aug 1915 he was aged 23 years 1 month ... as per AIF enlistment papers ... which have next of kin as Frederick Cooper, his father (also note indicating Arthur's mother was dead) ... lots of details on 19 pages of his digitised war service records at the National Archives of Australia ...

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 02:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ann

Departing London 10 Jan 1913 aboard the NORSEMAN. They were Ticketed to Melbourne.

COOPER Mr Arthur 20 Farm Lab country of last permanent residence England Intended permanent residence in Australia
WRIGHT Mr Fredk 22 Farm Lab "

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 03:02 UTC (UK) »

Death
COOPER Arthur
Father Cooper Frederick   Mother Rosina Flor  SNOW
At Echuca    57 years 1947  Reg#16647

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 03:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi there,

1901,  I o W Haylands at 12 Colemitts Rd (all recorded as born Haylands) Frederick Cooper, head, 35, nursery gardener:  Florence R, wife, 32; Elizabeth, daur, 11; Arthur, son, 8. 
1892, Dec 8; christening at Ryde of Arthur Cooper, with parents Frederick and Florence Rosina
1892, 3rd Qtr, registration of birth of Arthur Cooper, I o W, Vol 2b, pg 600 

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 03:34 UTC (UK) »

Ann you can purchase and immediately download an image of certificates in Victoria - AUD$17.50
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

Information on certificates in Victoria would include his marriage, if he married, names of any children etc.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 03:56 UTC (UK) »

This may be your Arthur -

Australian Electoral Roll
1942
COOPER Arthur  Rushworth Road, Kyabram   Farmer
COOPER Johanna Bridget  Rushworth Road, Kyabram  HD

Johanna is the only COOPER at that address in 1949

Marriage for this couple

COOPER Arthur
MCCARTHY Johanna Bridget
1939   Reg#10005

and her death
COOPER Johanna Bridget
Father Mccarthy Timothy   Mother Johanna  DOHERTY
At Mooroopna   83 years  1960  Reg#25428

Will see if I can locate him earlier on the electoral rolls.

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 04:16 UTC (UK) »

Buried at Kyabram Cemetery

COOPER  Arthur  57 years  Date of burial 20 Jan 1947  Roman Catholic  A2 11 i
COOPER  Johanna  83 years  Date of burial 17 Oct 1969  Roman Catholic A2 11 ii

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 04:30 UTC (UK) »

The death of Frederick c1890

WRIGHT Frederick
Father Alfred  Mother Cecilia  NOTTING
At Nathalia  73 years  1963

Parents' marriage

Marriages Sep 1885   
NOTTING Celia  Isle of Wight 2b/987        
WRIGHT Alfred George   Isle of Wight 2b/987

Australian Electoral Roll
1924
Victoria  District Echuca   Sub-district Nathalia
WRIGHT Frederick  Yumbara  Farm labourer

1954
Victoria  District Murray  Sub-district Nathalia
WRIGHT Frederick Wakiti Creek  Farmer

I can't see another WRIGHT at the above addresses.

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 04:52 UTC (UK) »

Dear Ann E
You appear to have all you need.  However, to correct a listing that you have to reject. Both Arthur Cooper (20) and Frederick Wright (22) disembarked at Melbourne in the month of February, 1913. The ship was the Norseman. I have no specific date, but assume it was a week or so before the Brisbane entry, referred to above. Therefore, the voyage appears to have taken 5 weeks.  The arrival can be checked easily by searching for PROV = Public Records of Victoria )  Online Access ( to the records)
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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 05:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ann and raveon.

The NORSEMAN Berthed at Victoria Dock 27 Feb. (Departed London 10 Jan.)

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10768905?searchTerm=%22norseman%22

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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 07:53 UTC (UK) »

Lookups for the Nathalia Cemetery - scroll down the page
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~surreal/AVNE/lookups.html#cemeteries



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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 09:19 UTC (UK) »

 Wow,  !
You all have been very busy, thank you all so much that is wonderful.
I was told Arthur had tried to join the army twice and there was a problem with his feet, but didn’t think that there would be any army records.
Thank also for the info on Frederick Wright, I think that his brother was my Godfather.
Thank you all again
Ann E
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Re: Passenger list … Arthur COOPER & Frederick WRIGHT
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 February 10 10:51 UTC (UK) »

Ann
   You mention Army records.  It would appear that Arthur Cooper's are available and can be read. My father's brother's record proved to be most interesting - he was killed as a 19 year old, without realisng his real name. If you would like to read Arthur's for yourself, they are available at the National Archives of Australia ( http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.asp?B=3407951&I=1&SE=1) . If you have any difficulty, just use www.naa.gov.au and use Search as GUEST selection in Menu toolbar Column 3 ( or 4) and at bottom  Record Search.  Ask for Arthur Cooper 1914 - 1918.  I am sure you will recognise it ( 66 returns) as it lists Next of Kin  - Frederick Cooper.  It mentions on his enlistment that his mother was dead.
This suggestion is a little cheeky.  However, I have done it myself in my own research - that is, sent a letter to an address, asking if they are related. I usually apologise, just in case I have selected a wrong person.  However, I have checked Australian Whitepages.  There are two Coopers ( both A) and two Wrights living at Nathalia today. If you decide to send them a letter and cannot find the relevant information, just let me know.
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