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Wmouse
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Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« on: Saturday 19 March 05 00:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I am looking for information on a Mrs John Harlow, I do not know her first or maiden name, but her name could have Sophie or Rosemary. John Harlow was serving with the Canadian Army  based somewhere in Sussex. They would have gotten married between the years 1940 & 1944 when John was killed in France in Aug, 1944. I think there was at least one child from this union.

Any help in finding this person or any descendants would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 March 05 00:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi wmouse

The commonwealth war graves gives the following info:

Name: HARLOW, JOHN C.
Initials: J C
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Warrant Officer Class II (B.S.M.)
Regiment: Royal Canadian Artillery
Unit Text: 6 Field Regt.
Age: 35
Date of Death: 10/08/1944
Service No: K/8019
Additional information: Son of Charles William and Alice Theresa Harlow; husband of Lillian Maud Harlow.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. E. 3.
Cemetery: BENY-SUR-MER CANADIAN WAR CEMETERY, REVIERS         

http://www.cwgc.org

Is this the one you are looking for?

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 March 05 03:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi casalguidi

Yes that is the right one. He is my great grandfather and we have just recently found out that he may have taken a wife while stationed in England. My mother received a letter years ago from a Mrs. John Harlow but my grandmother (Lillian Maud) took it and destroyed it. If John did take a wife while there we are very interested in finding out more about her. I realize that being as John was born in 1909 she may well be gone, but if true I would like to add her to my family tree.

Can you help me?

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 March 05 07:14 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I'm sorry I can't help you directly but if a lawful marriage took place then it would be recorded in the GRO indexes.  They are available to view online at http://www.1837online.com (pay per view £5 for 55 credits).  They are arranged quarterly so probably a total of 20 pages to view (1 credit per page) over a period of 5 years.  If you look for John then the maiden name of the female will be in brackets - you then look up that surname to get the forename and ensure that the ref. numbers for the couple match.

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 March 05 10:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Thanks for the information. Would they have the information for the years 1940 - 1944? Here in Canada marriage records have to be 75 years old before they will release the information.

With John having a wife in Canada, that he hadn't divorced yet, he could not legally marry a second time, so I am wondering if the marriage in England was more of a common - law thing. There was talk that after the war he was going to come back to Canada and ask my grandmother for a legal divorce. Then he was killed, so we will never know the answer to that one.

Thanks again for the information. I will look into it and see. Is this the route to go if it was a common-law marriage?

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 March 05 11:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Yes you can get a marriage certificate for the 1940s - view the indexes at 1837online and then purchase from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ for £7.

However, there won't be any record if it was a common-law arrangement.

With regards to finding the family other than via a marriage certificate it's a bit like looking for a needle in a haystack especially in wartime when people moved around quite a bit to escape/due to enemy invasion.

You can also use 1837online to view birth indexes for the 1940s but if the child was registered in the name of the mother (as it should have been if they were illegitimate) then there's not much hope.  Don't suppose you even have a town or village name in Sussex?

There appears to be no Rosemary or Sophi(a/e) HARLOW death registered 1983 to 1902.  They are the only later years that are online - otherwise it's searching the indexes again.  They may have a copy of the indexes in an LDS family history centre near you - it's worth checking out - see locations http://www.familysearch.org

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Re: Surname Harlow, pre and post WW2
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 March 05 14:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Thanks for all info and places to look.

I knew when I started looking it would be like finding the needle in the haystack, unless someone recognised the information and would reply.

I will try the places you suggested.

Thanks again

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