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Topic: SALTER, POWNEY & EATWELL in Calne (Read 882 times)
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Arranroots
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I have just started looking at these names, with some success back as far as 1871 census.
I wondered whether anyone else is researching the same?
Henry SALTER (b ?) married Mary Anne EATWELL (b 1832) in Sep 1852 in Calne and had children: Ann 1856, William 1858, John 1860 Henry 1865 and James 1872. All born Calne.
Fanny and William EATWELL are in Calne in 1871 - are these Mary's parents?
Henry SALTER's son Henry marries Mary Ann POWNEY (b 1867 Falkland Islands) in Sep 1889. Their children are Hubert S 1890, Mildred 1891, Ivan 1893, Roland H 1898 and Bernard 1900. Again all b Calne.
Would be interested to hear from you if you recognise any of these names, or can help with early censuses.
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Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Muddy Waters
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1851 census Calne living in Cow Lane, I found Henry Salter 24 Ag. Lab. Bromham, Wilts.
He is living in the same household as
SALTER George 44 Drover & Ag. Lab. Bromhill*
Eliza 43 Bromham, Wilts.
Ralph 13 At Home Bromham, Wilts.
Jane 11 Scholar Bromham, Wilts.
William 9 Scholar Bromham, Wilts
*Bromhill is possibly Bremhill which is near Calne
I did not see a Mary Ann Eatwell who was of an age to be married a year later, the only one was aged 4! There was also a Mary Eatwell aged 9
Hope this helps in a small way
regards
Mary
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Courtney GLA.DEV Burge , Niblett, GLS Muston, GLA Muston, Lucas,Feltham, Adams, Cole, Whitmarsh, Goldwyer,Pitt, DOR Goldwyer, Hants. Morgan Cwmdare GLA, Morgan, BRE James,Thornbury, Oldbury and Berkeley, GLS Biddle,Oldbury & Thornbury, Poole Barnsley, GLS Maisey Barnsley, Bibury, GLS Richards, Dallyn/Dalling, Fry, DEV Census information is Crown Copywright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thank you for that Mary! 
I wonder whether Henry and George are brothers, or if George & Eliza are his parents?
I'm amazed that EATWELL is such a popular name! I don't suppose you saw Fanny & William at all? Haven't got around to looking for a birth for her yet.
This is a distant twig of my family, but intriguing none the less and I appreciate your help.
Thanks again,
Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Hi Cheryl.f!
Thank you also for your time. Much appreciated.
I wonder if they are in Bremhill or Bromham?
From Mary's info, I think George would be 34 (or a very young father!! LOL)
I'm off to look up some births...
Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Hi Arran
Unfortunately, the 1851 census that I have seen is just a transcription and it doesn't give relationships and so cannot help you there.
As to the Eatwell name, it is very common in the area of Wiltshire in which you are looking, so Mary A could be from any of the contiguous parishes. She may not be with her parents either, as she could have been working away from home. Have you found her on a later census?
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Mary
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Courtney GLA.DEV Burge , Niblett, GLS Muston, GLA Muston, Lucas,Feltham, Adams, Cole, Whitmarsh, Goldwyer,Pitt, DOR Goldwyer, Hants. Morgan Cwmdare GLA, Morgan, BRE James,Thornbury, Oldbury and Berkeley, GLS Biddle,Oldbury & Thornbury, Poole Barnsley, GLS Maisey Barnsley, Bibury, GLS Richards, Dallyn/Dalling, Fry, DEV Census information is Crown Copywright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi Arran, me again!!
How about this - 1841 census Studley. Bremhill. (Which is near Calne)
George Salter, 35, ag lab. born in County
Eliza Salter 34, born in County
Henry Salter 14 born in County
Elizabeth Salter 12, born in County
Harriett Salter 11 born in County
Ralph Salter 3 born in County.
Looks as though George could be Henry's brother
I did look in Bromham which is where Henry said he was born, but there were no Salters there in 1841.
bye, Mary
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Courtney GLA.DEV Burge , Niblett, GLS Muston, GLA Muston, Lucas,Feltham, Adams, Cole, Whitmarsh, Goldwyer,Pitt, DOR Goldwyer, Hants. Morgan Cwmdare GLA, Morgan, BRE James,Thornbury, Oldbury and Berkeley, GLS Biddle,Oldbury & Thornbury, Poole Barnsley, GLS Maisey Barnsley, Bibury, GLS Richards, Dallyn/Dalling, Fry, DEV Census information is Crown Copywright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Mary, I am so impressed!  Thank you very much.
I have been unable to save the census I found for Mary Anne Eatwell, but I have her on all of them from 1871 if I remember correctly.
At different dates she has lodgers:
1881: a Fanny Eatwell b 1814 Monkton and
1871: an Elizabeth Eatwell b 1795 Tytherton (?)
living with her. No relationship is given, but I am surmising that they are elderly relatives and possibly one is her mother. Fanny is with husband William in Calne in 1871.
The ages of the Henry & George SALTER you have in 1841 is proportionate to those in 1851. Could they not be father and son?
Thanks again
Arranroots
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Hi Arran
sorry yes could be father and son, my maths seems to be up the creek!! I was thinking there was only ten years between them and not the 20/21. I'd better go back to school! 
Had look on the BVRI for any Mary Ann Eatwells , christened in the Calne area. There was only this one christened in Calne, but she seems unlikely as she isn't old enough to marry in 1852, unless of course the baptism was an adult one
EATWELL, Mary Anne Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 1 Sep 1844 Recorded in: Calne, Wiltshire, England
Father: William Eatwell
Mother: Maria
There was this one, in Cherhill, which is another parish contiguous with Calne but the
EATWELL, Mary Anne Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 29 Sep 1833 Recorded in: Cherhill, Wiltshire, England
Father: Benjamin EATWELL
Mother: Mary
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Mary
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Thanks Mary 
I had a look at the IGI (with all due caution!) and found a Mary Eatwell, parents Elizabeth and Thomas. Elizabeth lodging with MA from 1881 census could just about be this one?
Also found a William, son of Thomas and Elizabeth EATWELL bap Calne 25 June 1826 which amatches nicely with the one on the 1871 census. Can't find him marrying a Fanny though. This would make Fanny MA's sister in law.
Major leaps of faith involved here! Really appreciate your time.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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My grandfather was Harold Roland, son of Henry Salter and Mary Anne Powney.
Mary Anne was born 30 August 1866 in Falkland Islands, but birth was not registered until 1867, I think, on her return to Wiltshire. She died 12 January 1954, in Bristol I believe.
Henry Salter married Mary Anne in the Calne parish church on 2 July 1889. Mary was 22 and Henry 24.
Their children were -
Mildred b 1891
Ivan 1893
Bernard (b?)
Marjorie (b?)
Harold Roland b 1898
Margaret Amy (b?)
Rene (b? - but was the youngest) aka Katie
Hubert is unknown to me, although I have heard there was another son who died young.
Mildred and Margaret both emigrated to USA, and Margaret's children, Sylvia and Mary live there, so I could check further details.
Hope this helps.
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