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Offline beatrice57

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Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:09 BST (UK) »
Does anyone know of the above in 19th century. My ggGrandfather was a walking stick maker and his son married Elizabeth Ruffle



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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:10 BST (UK) »
hi,,what is it you are looking for?  are trying to trace the family in the census......do you have any more names,dates,places etc.. ;)
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:16 BST (UK) »
Marriage -

10 Apr 1919 - St James The Less, Bethnal Green
Frederick George Wastell, age 22, bachelor, soldier, father - James Wastell, walking stick dresser
Elizabeth Ruffle, age 21, spinster, father - Benjamin Ruffle, labourer
By licence. Witnesses - Frderick (Vaus?) and Beatrix Ruffle.

Baptism of Frederick George Wastell -

7 Nov 1897 - St James The Less - son of James (walking stick finisher) and Annie Wastell - abode 30 Ames St.

Marriage -

2 Jun 1889 - St Jude, Bethnal Green
James Wastell, age 20, bachelor, stick dresser, father - Daniel Wastell, silk dyer
Annie Lock, age 21, spinster, father - George Lock, labourer
By banns. Witnesses - Alfred Wastell and Emma (Dennis?)

Nigel
Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:20 BST (UK) »
Marriages Jun 1919 
 
RUFFLE  Elizabeth  Bethnal G  1c 313   
 
Wastell  Frederick G    Bethnal G.  1c 313
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:22 BST (UK) »
this could be her birth reference

Births Sep 1897 
 
Ruffle  Elizabeth     Bethnal G.  1c 239
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 21:38 BST (UK) »
Marriage -

18 Mar 1857 - St Matthew, Bethnal Green
Daniel Wastell, full age, bachelor, dyer, father - William Wastell, dyer
Elizabeth Savill, full age, spinster, father - Richard Savill - (? worker)
By banns. Witnesses - William (Jaines?) and John Samuel (Jaines?)

Baptism of Daniel Wastell -

28 Sep 1829 (born 29 Aug 1829) - St Leonard, Shoreditch - son of William (dyer) and Mary Ann, abode New Inn Yard.

1851 Census
HO107; Piece: 1542; Folio: 588; Page: 27
4 Peter St, Bethnal Green
William Wastell Head Mar 50 Dyer Middlesex, Spitalfields
Mary Ann Wastell Wife Mar 46 ", Bethnal Green
William Wastell Son U 26 Timber dealer " "
James Wastell Son U 24 " "
Daniel Wastell Son U 21 " "
Mary Ann Wastell Dau U 18 " "
Caroline Wastell Dau U 15 " "
Alfred Wastell Son U 11 " "

Nigel
Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 June 10 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hi beatrice 57,

What further information do you require?

Nigel
Essex - Burrell, Thorogood
Norfolk - Alcock, Bowen, Bowers, Breeze, Burton, Creamer, Hammond, Sparkes, Wakefield, Wiggett
North Devon - Burgess, Chalacombe, Collacott, Goss
Northamptonshire - George, Letts, Muscutt, Richardson
Somerset - Barber
Wiltshire - Brine, Burges, Carey, Gray, Lywood, Musselwhite, Perris, Read, Turner, Wilkins

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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 June 10 23:12 BST (UK) »
William the dyer would probably be the son of Peter Wastell and Dorothy Garrett (married 1791 Shoreditch). Peter himself was the son of John Wastell and Susanna Tripcony, (married 1757 St Matthews, Bethnal Green) and John Wastell was the son of another John Wastell, senior, and Ann Mayhew (Married 1730 St Dunstans Stepney).

The location and occupations, such as silk dyer, makes me think French Huguenots. Certainly the family married into Huguenot families (Tripcony), and several Wastells appear in the records of The French Hospital London. You had to be French Huguenot decended to be admitted there. There is some suggestion by other researchers online the name was perhaps at some stage anglicised from  the original French Guastell, the singular of the word "gāteau".
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: Wastell family - Bethnall Green
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 June 10 09:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for inf. I also felt that "wastel" was of french form of gateau.