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APotts1958
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Llangollen Area
« on: Sunday 03 April 05 09:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I was born in Llangollen and still live and work in the area. I have the 1841 Denbighshire census on disk I could look up if anyone needs. Also if it is of any help I can take digital Photo's of any Graves or dwellings or views if anyone requires? I also travel up the Ceiriog valley a lot so could get pics from that area.
Hope this is of help to someone
Allan
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 April 05 08:32 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for your kind offer.However would i be correct in saying that there are large parts,particularly in the Cefn Mawr/Rhosymedre areas that are missing?

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 April 05 13:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi William,
Yes you are correct it says on he disk cover The originals of the 1841 census returns in the PRO are missing for several parishes in the county of denbighshire. and goes on to state several townships in the wrexham parish including Erbistock Gresford Holt Marchwiel and Ruabon.
Hope that clears it up a little,
Allan
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 June 05 11:26 UTC (UK) »

Hello, Allan.  Thank you for the offer you have posted.  I wonder if you might be able to help me.  I have an Elizabeth Jones, born in Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog c.1839.  She married a Hugh Hughes, a gardener (born c.1829 in Llanfihangel Glyn Myfyr) but I haven't been able to track down their marriage certificate (a Hugh Hughes married an Elizabeth Jones in Bangor in 1860, but this seems it bit off track!).  Their children were born in Llangollen:  Catherine ('62), Edward ('65), Annie ('68), Jane (Nov '70) & Hugh ('74).  I am descended from Hugh.  I wondered whether you might be able to find in the 1841 Census Elizabeth aged about 2 in Llanarmon DC or, indeed, Hugh Hughes in Llanfihangel GM aged about 12.

I've traced the family through the 1871-1901 Censuses, but would very much like to get back a generation or two.  Many thanks, Emma Disley
PS  I passed through the Ceiriog valley the other week and was very impressed by its beauty.  Now that I know Elizabeth's maiden name (I've only just traced this), I'll go back to the graveyard and have a look for Joneses.  Those gravestones are very finely engraved.
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 June 05 11:29 UTC (UK) »

By the way, Elizabeth was widowed by 1881 and returned with her children to Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog, where she farmed at 'Cwm Canol'.  I can't help wondering whether this was a farm that had been in her family.
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Shropshire:Cleobury,Hotchkiss,Glover,Oswell
Berkshire:Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire:Disley
Anglesey & Denbighshire: Hughes,Davies
Flintshire:Hooson
Hertfordshire:Woodcock
Yorkshire:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Essex:Stace,Hummerstone
Wiltshire:Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford,Westhall
Kent:Jones,Bayley,Mille
Devon: Hamlyn
London: Egan,Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Rushan,Venile,Fairfax
Surrey: Songhurst,Knight,Street,Sayars
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley,Bennit
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 June 05 18:38 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for your offer.  Would the census include the Corwen area?  I would be interested to find, if possible, Robert James (46), his wife Catherine (47) and their son Thomas (16).  In 1851 Robert was a farmer at a dwelling called Ty Cerrig somewhere near Corwen (I've got Tir/Llan as part of the area if this helps).

I've been to Llangollen on a few occasions as my mum was born there at Pengwern Square (which was unfortunately a car park the last time I visited - that's progress for you).  There's nothing better on a sweltering hot day like today than dipping your toes in the River Dee.  Bliss!

Thanks, Elldee.
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 January 06 16:42 UTC (UK) »

Hello Allen

I hope you can help me, i'm trying to trace the parents of my x4  great grand-father Henry Jones. Henry was born in 1826/27 in Glyn Ceiriog. It is possible that henry comes from a family of stone masons as this trade has followed down through the family.

Later Henry married a Catherine ?? and settled to life in Llangollen, which is where my father's family still live. My great grand parents used to live in Fron Bache Cemetry Cottage, sadly demolished years ago but i do have pictures of them sitting in their much loved garden (sorry rambling on abit now)

Look forward to hearing from you

Jeannette
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Davies - Montgomeryshire
Edwards - Selattyn Shropshire
Jones - Llangollen Denbighshire
Harris - Llangollen  Denbighshire/ Cardiganshire
Humphreys - Oswestry / Whittington Shropshire
Pearce - Kent
Gould - Essex / Kent
Phillips - Cefn Mawr
Armstrong - Lincolnshire
Baines - Manchester / Selattyn Shropshire
Kempster - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
Pugh - Corwen Merionethshire
Wright - Ruabon / Cefn Mawr
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 January 06 16:52 UTC (UK) »

Hi Allan

A very kind offer  Smiley

However.....would I be right in thinking Llanferres and Llanarmon are missing from the 1841?? Sad

PS ; Llangollen is a lovely place, my godmother had alot to do with Llangollen Wharf and the barge-horses up until her death a couple of months ago.

Sarah

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Davies/Griffiths/Smith/Woodward/Goodwin/Morrlle/Moralee - Flintshire

Moralee (and variants) - Durham
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Re: Llangollen Area 1841 census.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 February 06 21:02 UTC (UK) »

My great grandmother, Sarah Ann Jones, was born in Llangollen, Dec 1859 or Jan 1860. She was the daughter of Robert and Caroline Jones who were married in the mid 1850's. I don't have the maiden name of Caroline though in the 1871 census. after the death of her father, Sarah Ann was in Llangollen with the family of John and Sarah Jones. Sarah Ann and John Edwin, siblings, were listed as daughter and son, but it is obvious that isn't true. Caroline is living in Wrexham Abbot. Caroline was born in Llangollen, abt 1839/40.

My request is for census data from 1841 that would reveal Caroline's parents, living in Llagollen.

Thank you, Joan I. Owen
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 February 06 22:15 UTC (UK) »

Yes it isn't easy to find the answer to this one,without knowing where exactly they married.If you could tell me that,and she married in Church,there is a good chance I would be able to find out tomorrow.I am visiting the Rhosymedre Resource Centre of Clwyd FHS,where there is such a thing known as the Hayes Marriage Index.On most of the Marriages after 1837,it also includes the Fathers name.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Jones,Griffiths.Stephens,Parry,Gabriel,Conway,Hughes,Evans,Roberts,Lea,Hanmer.Peake,Edwards.Newnes,Davies.
All North Wales.
Conway,Durber,Cartlidge,Lovatt,Bebington.Brindley,Sankey,Brunt.Dean.Clewes.Rhodes.Mountford
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis-Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell-Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 10:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi, do not know if you can help.

Looking to find 1841 census details of Harriet Lloyd, orn c1834 -36 in  'Chirk'.  Also have her on census  born 'St Martins', also 'Denby Dillinson' Denbighshire. 

Any help or advice would be appreciated, would love to have more family details on this lady.  Have her married on all other census. 

Have found a Harriet on 1851/1861 census with father Thomas c1791 both born Chirk...but this is not her as she was already married c1857/8.  This one was still with father 1861.  I am waiting for a marriage cert, that hopfully is hers - so will maybe know her fathers name shortly. Update - fathers name William Lloyd

Many thanks if you can help

Cas
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Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn - Ireland
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 February 06 19:43 UTC (UK) »

I'm sorry but I have no idea what church Caroline and Robert Jones were married in.

Joan
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Re: Llangollen Area
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 09 March 06 20:59 UTC (UK) »


I have noticed that Allan has not been online for a long time (hope he is ok)

I am planning to remove his offer to stop further replies..

Sarah Smiley
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