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Mean_genie
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #30 on: Friday 25 January 08 21:14 UTC (UK) »

Records of most police forces will be held in their local area, but The National Archives hold some records for the Metropolitan Police. the Royal Irish Constabulary, and for Transport Police. There are Research Guides for all three

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=104

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=244

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=336

Some of the names of Metropolitan Police pensioners are searchable in the online Catalogue, and the actual records of a very few (years 1892-93 in MEPO 21/22) are in DocumentsOnline, also searchable by name.

Some of the Registers of Leavers from 1889 are also in DocumentsOnline, but they aren't searchable by name, and are a bit of a swine to use, so you might want to pretend they're not there!

The only other police records I have any experience of are those of the Glasgow Police (older than the Met) at the Mitchell Library, which are indexed by name. That's how I found that my great-great-grandmother's brother-in-law was dismissed from the force for drunkenness.

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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 06 March 08 23:12 UTC (UK) »

I went to the National Archives at Kew looking for details about a Met Police Inspector relation of mine in the mid 1800's - I found all his promotion records and pension details, if you have the opportunity it is very rewarding reading the Police orders.
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 15:55 UTC (UK) »

I couldn't link up with the www.lightage.demon.co.uk./POLNOTES.htm site as noted in one of these posts.  I'm not sure if this site is still available, but found this site which includes Police, Railway, Mining Reports, etc. which might be very helpful for research.  It gives the index of the surnames which helps in finding people. 

http://www.blacksheepindex.co.uk/POLNOTES.htm#Top

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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 11:35 UTC (UK) »

The web site www.lightage.demon.co.uk etc doesn't appear to be working as has been said before but the following has the first police recruits from Sept 1829 - Feb 1830 listed.

The Warrant numbers are from 1 - 3247

http://www.historybytheyard.co.uk/wt_nos_2750-3247.htm
(this should be the last page - Nos 2750-3247)
On the bottom of the page are selections for earlier numbers.

If all else fails Google the following
"List of Recruits 1829-30" and select the second cached option (there should only be two - well, there was when I just did it  Roll Eyes)

Good luck

Di
(PS - If anyone needs a lookup - just ask, as I may be able to help with the early years)
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #34 on: Monday 25 August 08 16:03 UTC (UK) »

not sure if anyone will be able to assist,but its worth a try.Have had some invaluable help elewhere on this site of late Smiley

William Hunt is my g g grandad,here he is in the 1871 cenus

10 East Side Bethnal Green

William Hunt 38 b Burrington Somerset Police officer
Eliza 38 b Faversham Kent
William 6 b Bethnal Green
Eliza 3 b Bethnal Green
Mary A 1 b Mile End
RG10; Piece: 488; Folio: 58; Page:30
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and 1881..(dob and eby should be 1833 and appx 47...there seems to be a mistake when info transferred from original document)
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anyway,ive been trying to find some more info his Police career..with no joy.
All i know basically is whats above ^..and he  doesnt seem to be on the 1891 census.

Any info/help would be  greatly appreciated

cheers
Chris
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 21 October 08 18:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Re:www.policeorders.co.uk.

Found this link to it: http://free.dominoserver.de/information/podb.nsf[url][/url]

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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 22 October 08 23:27 UTC (UK) »




Does anyone know where I might find the records of police who served in the City of London police 1901.
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 14:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi Chris,
I'm researching my Family Tree and came across your post. I am also related to William Hunt - he was my GGG Grandfather. Thought I'd get in touch, perhaps you would like to share information?
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 19:37 UTC (UK) »

As this thread is getting a little old, a few of the early links don't work any more. I am having real trouble finding out how to obtain police records.

From what i can make out from the above my best bet is to actually go to National Archives - Kew to get any info. I have tried searching: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=104
But to me the website doesn't make any sense.

On the 1861 Census my GrGrGr Granddad (Joshua Luetchford, Born: 1821, Living: Elder Road, Norwood) occupation is listed as Police Constable. I would love to find out more. Anyone off any advice? Is it worth me posting a "Lookup request"

Sorry for my ignorance, a bit of a newbie on this FamilyTree business!  Undecided

Cheers
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 20:07 UTC (UK) »

There was an article, by Karen Foy and Simon Fowler, about the history of Police in the November edition of Ancestors magazine. They mentioned that Police records are usually held by the constabulary in question or by local record offices. In some cases records were destroyed ... either during the war or when amalgamation or reorganisation took place. The NA can tell you if there are records and where they have been deposited. Unfortunately the recording of information by the police was not standardised so some records are better than others. 
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 21 January 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

For all those who reported broken links on this topic:

The Black Sheep Index at  www . lightage . demon . co . uk has moved to http://www.blacksheepindex.co.uk

13.10.2007:
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> Owing to demon's incompetence I am unable to provide a link to my new
> website from my old one, so please note that the Black Sheep Index,
> Police, Railway and Mining indexes are now at:
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> wwww.blacksheepindex.co.uk
>
> I would be grateful if people will pass this on to other interested
> parties
>
> Many thanks
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CHESHIRE/2007-10/1192267479

the 4 w's (wwww.blacksheep..... was a typo


The Police Orders site www . policeorders . co . uk now seems to be at
http://free.dominoserver.de/information/podb.nsf

Bob
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 23:18 UTC (UK) »

At the moment I am working on transcripts for the Metropolitan Police's Registers Of Leavers, in view of making them available to all on the National Archives' YourArchives website. I have one question in relation to an aspect of my transcriptions. Would you expect to find officers who cancelled their leaving in the list?

I have a photo to demonstrate - it's the right-hand-side. At the moment I have not transcribed them, as they didn't technically leave the force - and as such I didn't think that they would be helpful to people. But I thought I would ask if people would think the information both helpful and important.
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 23:31 UTC (UK) »

Hi and welcome
From my point of view, all information in the Registers should be transcribed - although 'technically' they didn't leave, it could still help someone, just by finding their name - all little details help.
Cheers, Cougar
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 01:25 UTC (UK) »

As I thought Cougar. Thanks for the feedback. It hopefully won't take too long to add those few that rejoined to the list. I can then start checking and when that's done, upload what I have done.

Hopefully this will prove a useful resource for those looking for ancestors in the Metropolitan Police Force.
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Re: Looking For Policemen ????
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 01 April 09 03:20 UTC (UK) »

Congrats on doing this and for sharing - don't forget to put the site on rootschat, perhaps under a separate heading 'Police Leaving Registers' and the area or similar then leave the link with a short description of what the registers are about, the years covered etc,  so that it is easy for people to find.
Good hunting,
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