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chalfontcrew
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1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« on: Saturday 09 April 05 13:30 BST (UK) »

Hi
I am looking for the following family on the 1841 census

Duncan McTaggart (farm servant)
wife Mary
children
Archibald born 1836
Esther born 1838
Mary and Ann  born 1839
John born 1848
all born on Islay, Duncan & Mary were married in Kilchoman.

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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 November 05 23:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Don't know if you are still looking for this family in 1841..
They stayed in Ballinaby, Kilchoman, Duncan was working as an agricultural labourer.

Duncan Mactaggart   25
Mary Mactaggart 25
Archibald Mactaggart 4
Esther Mactaggart 3
Mary Mactaggart 2
Ann Mactaggart 2

There was quite a few McTaggarts in Kilchoman, if you wish me to look up anything else census or bdm from Kilchoman or Kilarrow..
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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 November 05 20:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks so much for that, yes I was still looking for them.
You said you could look for other McTaggarts in this area, do you have access to other census years as I would love those relating to this family.

I know they had two another sons Christian in 1844 and John in 1846.  I have baptism dates for all the children, they were all baptised in Kilchoman. And I know that Duncan & Mary were married in 1836, but no other details.
John is my great great grandfather and married in Glasgow in 1874.

Anthing else you have would most gratefully received.
Thanks again
Caz
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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 November 05 21:44 GMT (UK) »

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Duncan McTaggart married Mary Mitchell in Kilchoman on 5 Jan 1836.

children,  baptism dates,  birth dates:

Archibald,  4 Dec 1836,  18 Oct 1836
Esther,  13 Apr 1838,  12 Dec 1837
Mary,  3 May 1839,  27 Apr 1839
Ann,  3 May 1839,  27 Apr 1839
Alexander,  5 May 1843,  Aug 1842
Christian,  2 Oct 1844,  29 Mar 1844
John,  29   Jul 1846,  29 May 1846

You said they had son Christian, this was actually a daughter, I have checked the baptism.  Christian was a popular female name in Scotland in 1800s.


I have the following records for Kilchoman if you wish me to check on anything:
Kilchoman births 1821 - 1875
Kilchoman deaths 1850 - 1875
Kilchoman marriages 1821 - 1854
Kilchoman census 1841

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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 10:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi L

Thanks for those dates, I just presumed Christan was a boy thanks for putting me straight.

Do the marriage records you have give any details regarding Duncan & Marys parents?

Do you by chance have any records for Kildalton?,  although John married in Glasgow his wife was also from Islay.

Thanks again for your help
Caz

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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 13:35 GMT (UK) »

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The birth and baptism records I have for Duncan and Mary did not give parents unfortunately.  Where did you think Mary was born, I cannot find a birth record in Kildalton or Kilarrow.  The Mitchels seem to hail from Kilchoman.  I do not have any birth records prior to abt 1821 in Kilchoman (they only start from 1821 unfortunately!!).  It is probable Mary was also born Kilchoman.  I have the following records plus a few other things to do with Kildalton and Kilarrow.

Bowmore / Killarow / Baptisms from 1763 to 1819
Bowmore / Killarow / Baptisms from 1820 to 1854
Bowmore / Killarow / Marriages from 1771 to 1819
Bowmore / Killarow / Marriages from 1820 to 1854
Kildalton Marriages from 1722 to 1766
Kildalton Marriages from 1722 to 1766
Kildalton Marriages from 1789 to 1819
Kildalton Marriages from 1820 to 1854
Kildalton Baptisms from 1723 to 1762
Kildalton Baptisms from 1789 to 1819
Kildalton Baptisms from 1820 to 1856
1841 census for most Islay Parishes
Some other information..


Possible father to Mary in Kilchoman is Archibald Mitchell born c1876, on 1841 census with son Archibald b c1816, and daugh Margaret b c.1811.  The 2 Archibalds were ag labourers.  No mother alive at this point.  There were only a few more Mitchells in Islay at this time, none of which are possible.  It is an avenue to check out.


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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 19:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi L,

I will certainly look into the Mitchells, at the moment I have no details on her birth.

Mary Calder who married Duncan McTaggart's son John in Glasgow was not born until 1848, her parents John Calder and Margaret McTaggart were married in Kildalton in 1847.  So this family  won't be on the 1841 census, her parents would possibly have been living at home I have no details regarding John, only that he was dead by 1881, his wife Marage rt was born in Kilchoman ca 1832.

Again anything you can find on this family would be greatfully received.

Thanks again
Caz


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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 November 05 22:09 GMT (UK) »

The following children were born to John Calder and Margaret McTaggart in Kildalton with births in Parish register, had others after 1856 do not have details

Mary   22 Sep 1848
William   23 Feb 1850
Gilbert   6 Dec 1852
Peter   7 Jul 1854

They also had a daughter Margaret in 1867, have death a 3 months old on 8 Jan 1868 place of death Port Ellen, Kildalton, cause unknown, informed by father John Calder.  It lists John Calder and Margaret McTaggart as parents

William died age 10 on 28 Apr 1860, place of death Port Ellen, Kildalton, cause small pox, informed by father John Calder.  It lists John Calder and Margaret McTaggart as parents


There was only 1 John Calder in Kildalton in 1841, this is the family for further investigating..

Port Ellen, Kildalton
William Calder  65   Blacksmith
Matty Calder  60   
James Calder  35   
Flora Calder  20   
John Calder  24   
(Matty is a deriv. of Margaret or Martha)

There was 1 Margaret McTaggart in Kilchoman in 1841, this is the family for further investigating..

Coullabus, Kilchoman
Duncan McTaggart   40   Ag Lab
Catherine McTaggart   35   
Margaret McTaggart      15   
Ann McTaggart   15   
Catherine McTaggart   8   
Mary McTaggart   6   
Heny McTaggart   4   

Their marriage is as follows in Kilchoman
Duncan McTaggart  and  Catharine McDougall   1 May 1827

No interrelations between my McGilvrays and McCalmans and your relatives.  My lot came from Kilarrow and Kilchoman.  Like your Duncan, my gg grandmother Mary McG came to Glasgow and married.



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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 November 05 11:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi L,

Many thanks for all this wonderfull stuff you have given me lots of new leads to chase up.

Thanks again for all your help
Caz
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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 06:51 BST (UK) »

re duncan mctaggart and mary mitchell they are one of my great great grandparents their son archibald was my great grandparent he married a elizabeth galbraith and they married in greenock and settled in kingarth bute their youngest son john was my grandfather he was born in 1886 and would have just known the duncan mctaggart as he came to live with archibald's family after his wife died her parents were archibald mitchell and ester mckay, the duncan died in 1888 at piperhall kingarth and his parents were archibald mctaggart and christian currie. of duncans other son alexander and the twins ann and mary they went to canada and I have made contact with a distant relation of the alex . esther married a james allen and they lived on the mainland and some of their family now live in fife. christian married a samuel mclean and she died in 1913. If any of this is of interest to you I can list down all the dates and childrens names etc which at present I havent got handy.
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Re: 1841 Census look up Kilchoman Islay
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 06 August 08 13:53 BST (UK) »

Hi Helen,

Just please I would love any further details you can give me ( I have found him on the 1841,1851,1881,1891 and 1901 census)  Archibald was the brother of my gg grandfather John McTaggart who married Mary Calder.
I cant find them on the 1881 or 1891 census and as yet have not managed to find death dates for either of them.

I will send you a private message with my email address so you can contact me direct.

Thanks
Caz
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