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Topic: ITALY: Ignazio Mugnaio aka Matthew Miller (Read 1931 times)
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suanj
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Hi Annie, again me!
so long time! I never forgot you, and in my free time, I make the long search with so much difficulties...
I know that in the marriage act show: Mugnaio, but it could be mispelled and also so much... however I'm pretty sure that from Norman input, the original name of Matthew Miller was John/Giovanni....
I know all censuses discrepances abt the Matthew birthplace, but I'm most sure that in the 1901 Matthew said the truth:
he was born in Liverpool, almost by my search....
Matthew Miller born as John Miller in Liverpool 1853, was the son of a italian man emigrated in UK and married at a ireland woman... this man in first time of emigration in UK was a musician, and also when born the children , after changed the him work... him name was Anthony Miller italian, but in 1 census he declared himself as born in ireland, and in all other censuses as italian british subject.....
Sure trace of Anthony Miller italian are in 1871 census and the oldest son was John Miller:
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I believe that Anthony died in 1913 abt.....
but what was the italian surname? ?
I know that in Matthew marriage act was wrote Mugnaio... but frankly I believe mistaken or no right....
Strange census records:
I searched in 1861 census and 1851 census... and the only Anthony Miller, italian, musician, married at Mary( married Miller), born Ireland, ages matching, well living in Warrington, Lancashire... the problem is that no John/Matthew presence, so this record could be no right... I searched so much in 1861 census, but this is the only record matching for ages, profession, birthplaces and names....
Abt 1851 it is a Anthony ..., italian, musician in Manchester... the surname is transcribed as: Miedive
but from direct reading of handwriting, and knowing the italian surnames, it is NICOLINI....
so also this record is strange....
However abt Anthony Miller I'm pretty sure that he is the John/Matthew father
Just for let you know that I no missing you....
best regards, suanj
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suanj
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suanj !!!! .... how lovely to see you !!  I was only talking about you the other day !! Let me go through this stuff and get back to you ! I'm amazed you still remembered .... thank you !! Annie  |
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suanj
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Hi Annie, you remember this:
title: Grandfather
Author: Norman Miller Date: 3 Jan 2003 8:25 PM GMT
Classification: Query
Gianni Mugnaio, born Palermo circa1853, was a seaman arrived in Liverpool,England,changed his name to John Miller, married Rose Cosh sometime around 1870,s. Died in Liverpool around 1910.
If anyone can help or assist I would appreciate it
Grandfather Mugnaio born Palermo circa 1853
Author: Norman Miller Date: 3 Jan 2003 8:33 PM GMT
Classification: Query
Looking for anyone familiar with the name Mugnaio. First name Gianni Became a Merchant seaman. Came to Liverpool England sometime in 1860's changed name to John Miller married Rose Cosh in Liverpool around 1870-1880. Died in Liverpool around 1910.
Apreciate anyone having information regarding the name or family history.
Thank you,
Norman E. Miller
I believe John first name correct.... many italians changed in various censuses the surname and also the first names... and the only John Miller that matching for age is the John Miller son of Anthony Miller, italian... no traces of John Miller in further censuses.... and also another child of Anthony Miller, Felix, changed the first name in Thomas, so become Thomas Miller... when I made the search abt italian roots of my friend George, I found the same thing... and also George had perplexities.... but in further search we have found the right roots with document's proofs ..... so maybe you can ask in the family if Matthew had siblings and if someone remember the first names.....
Best regards, suanj
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thanks, maybe Annie can show us the marriage act, so I can to read directly... thanks, suanj
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