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Topic: The April 2005 Rootschat Challenge (Read 12275 times)
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Paul E
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If you've reached the end of the line (for the moment) with your own research, or just fancy a diversion ... then the 2005 Rootschat Challenge could be just for you!
I've selected an individual ENTIRELY AT RANDOM - ie I have no connection to this person in my tree. I've checked on the surname interest table, and no one has declared this surname in their own tree.
So what's the idea?
Well, the collective wisdom of Rootschatters is to be pitted against the censuses, bmd info and other resources to COMPILE A FAMILY HISTORY OF THIS MAN, with as much information and detail as we can muster.
Anyone can contribute anything to the debate - however small or however detailed. No prizes, but ... wouldn't it be nice if some soul searching on Google for this chap sudddenly chanced upon this thread? 
Your April 2005 Rootchat Challenge is:
Abraham BLAND, shown in the 1881 census as living in Washway Road, Sale, Cheshire, born 1875.
Away you go! (And I haven't checked, so lets hope he doesn't die in 1882!  )
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SS from The Rhondda
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I'll start with the easy bit 
His parents were:
John BLAND, a gardener, b Esholt, York (b 1817)
Eliza BLAND,, b Barnsley, York (b 1837)
He had siblings named:
John(b 1870), William (b 1871), Frank (b 1874), Arthur (b 1877) & Eliza A. (b 1878)
All except Eliza A. shown as being b. Sale, Cheshire.
RG11 3506 fo56 pg43
(Source: 1881 Census, FamilySearch website)
Paul.. What a good idea for a challenge. Well done! Perhaps next time, you can start with my elusive ggg grandfather
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Arranroots
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~ Grand Aunt Jenny ~
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By 1891 his father was a landscape gardener...
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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Paul E
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"Sale is bisected in a roughly north to south direction by the Roman Watling Street, which, today, as Cross Street and Washway Road, forms the A56 trunk route between Manchester and Chester...
Sale lies on the former Manchester, South Junction and Altrincham railway line which reached the town as early as 1849, linking it to Manchester. The A56 runs in a straight line for over two miles through Sale. In Roman times Watling Street was a part of the route from Mamucium (Manchester) to Deva (Chester). Until the 1930s, the area to the west of this road was known as Ashton-on-Mersey, whilst that to the east constituted Sale and Sale Moor."
Taken from: http://www.personal.u-net.com/~luso/sale1.htm
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Sisterjane
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Castle Hill Huddersfield..Im here where are they!!
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This is my bit
1891 cencus
RG12/2825
Folio 104
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Bland, Abraham 16 Sale, Cheshire Son Sale Labourer
Bland, Arthur 15 Sale, Cheshire Son Sale
Bland, Eliza 55 Barnsley, Yorkshire Wife Sale
Bland, Eliza 13 Sale, Cheshire Daughter Sale
Bland, Elizabeth 9 Sale, Cheshire Daughter Sale
Bland, Frank 17 Sale, Cheshire Son Sale Under gardener
Bland, John 74 Esholt, Yorkshire Head Sale Landscape gardener
Bland, John 21 Sale, Cheshire Son Sale Railway clerk
Bland, William 20 Sale, Cheshire Son Sale Under gardener
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emilysiobhan
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He seems to still be living at home in Sale in 1901.....with both his parents still alive and masquerading under his middle name of Lionel.
On freeBMD I found:
Births Mar 1875 Bland Abraham Lionel G Altrincham 8a 182
Sale registers in the altrincham district.
Emily
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Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds: Pope,Harwood
Essex: Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern, Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen
Census information is Crown copyright
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Paul E
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Phew! At least he's still alive, then!
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Arranroots
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~ Grand Aunt Jenny ~
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Name Abraham
Gender male
Origin Hebrew
Meaning father of a multitude
Similiar Names Abram, Avraham, Avram, Avrom, Abe, Abie, Abra, Ibrahim, Braham, Bram, Abramo, Abran, Abramio
from: http://baby-names.adoption.com/search/Abraham.html
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK) |
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gennig
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Yes he's living at home with his parents at 117 Washway Road, Sale.
He's become a Railway Fireman.
His Father John is retired
Eliza, his mother doesn't work
Brother John is a Railway Clerk
Brother Arthur is a day gardner
Sister Amy E H is a dressmaker.
Genni
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******************************************* All census look up transcriptions are Crown copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk******************************************* Surnames: Armstrong, Gray, Greco, Lambden, Le Busque, Beaton, Carron, Pitt, Gould Areas: Victoria, Tasmania, Hampshire, Berkshire, Yorkshire, Fermanagh, Glamorgan |
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molar
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can I play devils advocate 
it has been assumed that Eliza is his mother. But we have to consider the possibility of this being a second marriage.
Linda
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Allison:Atkinson:Cooper:Forster:Greenway:Grieves:Hickman(also Staffs):Mason:Reed:Tennent:Waggott: Nothumberland/Durham. Armitage:Balam:Bowden:Dean:Etchells: Farney: Stockport /Manchester Pollitt: Failsworth. McVeety: Melia: Ireland/Manchester. Wathen: Bristol Voigt: Germany/Bristol/Manchester. Census information is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Paul E
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Linda - you devil!
But of course, you are right to alert us to this possibility...
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emilysiobhan
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Hmm....in the 1871 census, there seems to be a Bland family living in Sale with parents John and Eliza and two boys John and William, but the parents are transcribed as coming from Cork!!
Cork...York? Does anyone have access to the image?....its Rg10 piece 3684
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Cork: Collins,
Herts/Beds: Pope,Harwood
Essex: Bryant, Pumfrey, Williams, Keyes,Totham, Citchen
Surrey/London: Shields, Woolf, Cooper, Quinton, Plumer
other: Cuskern, Domazsewicz
Wales: Morgan, Mathews, Thomas (x2), Trew, Protheroe, Owen
Census information is Crown copyright
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Sueh2
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Violet Ward 1902-1996
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Hi,
In 1871 the family are in Sale
John Bland 48 market gardener b Ersholt CORK !!!
Eliza 34 b Barnsley CORK !!!
John 1 b Sale
William 2mths b Sale
Can't read the name of the road I'll leave that to someone else
Sue
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 Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukE Yorks: HALL, HARLEY, HARVEY, HULLAH, PORTER, PRESTON. Essex: HARVEY, SMITH. ONG, HUMM/HUME Norfolk: TUCK Lincs: ADAMS, HOLLAND. |
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Paul E
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Esholt seems to be in Leeds - where's JillJ when you need her?
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Paul E
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Have we noticed how the age gap between John and Eliza has crept up from 14 years in 1871 to 19 years in 1891?
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