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Keith Sherwood
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 October 05 12:50 BST (UK) »

Thanks for taking the time and trouble over this, Jade...
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 09:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Keith,

Although I have no AMPHLETTs, there was a Rev. Joseph AMPHLETT in Kings Norton recorded on the1838 Tithe map.  Described as a "croft" the property was owned by the Bishop of Rochester as part of the vicarial glebe!

I have a Benjamin HANDS also under his lordship, but on the other side of the road.  This all comes about, I think, because the Bishop of Rochester, was Dean of Worcester and Vicar of St. John's, Bromsgrove. (A nice little earner if you can get it.  Hence half starved curates!)

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HANDS, MIL(L)WARD, COTTERIL, CLULEE, IZOD, HASSALL, TODD, STRATTON, JAKEMAN, JENNINGS, MOLE, ALLCOCK north Worcestershire
WATERS, Thurzo, Sutherland> Bishopswearmouth, Durham
GARDNER, Solihull; TOLLEY Birmingham, Warkickshire
HUMPHRIES, Meifod, Montgomeryshire>Bilston, Staffordshire> Manchester & Texas and Kansas, USA
JAKENS, BIRD, CRAPPER Bury, HIGGINBOTHAM, HORRIDGE, Lancashire
LEO, Galway/Tipperary, Ireland
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 10:36 BST (UK) »

Hi, Mike,
This really is quite a amazing, as James Greaves DYSON, a grandson of William Amphlett DYSON, was married at King's Norton in 1871.  I suppose this has to be some kind of coincidence, no more, but it is remarkable nonetheless.
Thank you so much for bringing the Reverend Joseph AMPHLETT to my notice...
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 15:34 BST (UK) »

Keith,

May not be a coincidence.  There are both DYSONs and AMPHLETTs, well at least one of each, buried at St. Nicholas according to an online index.  Using a different index, http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wythallindex/ there are a couple of DYSONs listed.  Time frame might suggest an association.

Note 1: I have known ex-vicars have "usage" rights at the their old Church.  (Gets another member of the family on the certificate!)
Note 2:  Any birth or death certificate from then, in Kings Norton, are likely to have a relly of mine, Josiah HANDS sign them as registrar.

I would dig a little deeper on this one.

Mike
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HANDS, MIL(L)WARD, COTTERIL, CLULEE, IZOD, HASSALL, TODD, STRATTON, JAKEMAN, JENNINGS, MOLE, ALLCOCK north Worcestershire
WATERS, Thurzo, Sutherland> Bishopswearmouth, Durham
GARDNER, Solihull; TOLLEY Birmingham, Warkickshire
HUMPHRIES, Meifod, Montgomeryshire>Bilston, Staffordshire> Manchester & Texas and Kansas, USA
JAKENS, BIRD, CRAPPER Bury, HIGGINBOTHAM, HORRIDGE, Lancashire
LEO, Galway/Tipperary, Ireland
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 16:08 BST (UK) »

Mike,
This is all getting quite interesting - never quite understood why James Greaves Dyson came down to the Birmingham area by the 1861 Census from Lancashire as a corn dealer.  Maybe it was because there was some kind of family connection...
Being rather ignorant of the area, can you tell me where exactly St. Mary's Wythall is; and also the St. Thomas's that you refer to...?
Very best wishes,
Keith
p.s. would a marriage certificate of 1871 in King's Norton have your relative, Josiah HANDS on...!
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 16:37 BST (UK) »

Keith

St. Mary can be found at http://www.findachurch.co.uk/churches/sp/sp07/stmary/

A general map of the area is at http://uk8.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?GridE=-1.92840&GridN=52.40700&client=public&lon=-1.92840&lat=52.40700&place=King%27s+Norton,West+Midlands&db=freegaz&local=&type=&start=&limit=&overviewmap=&scale=100000&search_result=King%27s%20Norton%2CWest%20Midlands&lang=&db=freegaz
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Not St. Thomas, but St. Nicolas, Kins Norton can be seen at http://parishmouse.com/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,39/catid,1/PageNo,2/

More info at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/restoration/profiles/?13

http://www.virtualbrum.co.uk/kingsnorton.htm 

As for Josiah - no not a marriage - that was the vicar's job.

You could also check out our new and growing website, which includes Kings Norton, http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/

Mike
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HANDS, MIL(L)WARD, COTTERIL, CLULEE, IZOD, HASSALL, TODD, STRATTON, JAKEMAN, JENNINGS, MOLE, ALLCOCK north Worcestershire
WATERS, Thurzo, Sutherland> Bishopswearmouth, Durham
GARDNER, Solihull; TOLLEY Birmingham, Warkickshire
HUMPHRIES, Meifod, Montgomeryshire>Bilston, Staffordshire> Manchester & Texas and Kansas, USA
JAKENS, BIRD, CRAPPER Bury, HIGGINBOTHAM, HORRIDGE, Lancashire
LEO, Galway/Tipperary, Ireland
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 18 October 05 16:59 BST (UK) »

Mike - you've been extremely busy!
As I have reached the proverbial brick wall with William DYSON, b. 1795, I shall have a really good look at all those links you've so kindly provided.
Thanks very much...
Keith
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 26 January 06 16:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi again, Everyone,
I have recently uncovered a Mary AMPHLETT marrying a James DYSON in Saddleworth, West Riding,( but now comes under Oldham) in 1791.  I have also come across a rather vague Pedigree file on familysearch.org which gives details of a Mary AMPHLETT and four siblings, plus a tree that goes back another 3 or 4 generations.
The reason I describe it as vague, is that there is no location given whatsoever, nor any precise dates.  So, if anyone recognises any of this family - or is indeed researching them - and I presume Worcestershire is the best place to ask, could you reply on this thread.
There is: Mary AMPHLETT born abt. 1765  England
Elizabeth AMPHLETT born abt. 1767  England
Christian AMPHLETT born abt. 1769  England
Margaret AMPHLETT born abt. 1771  England
John AMPHLETT born 1763  England

This last-named John AMPHLETT has a death date of 1844  England, and when I looked up John AMPHLETT for the whole of England in 1844 on freebmd, only one individual came up with this name, registered in Bromsgrove.
Parents of this generation of 5 children are given as John AMPHLETT, no birthdate known, but died 22-06-1777; mother Mary HOPWOOD, born abt. 1741.
Anybody know a bit more about this particular family...?
Very best wishes,
Keith
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 26 January 06 17:57 GMT (UK) »

John Amphlett was a considerable historian and writer, wrtitng for the Worcestershire Historical Society and writing a History of the village of Clent in 1890 where he lived.
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 26 January 06 19:17 GMT (UK) »

EBN,
Do you know the titles of any of the books that he may have written, or where and how I could find out more about this man...?  Thanks very much for this.
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 26 January 06 21:12 GMT (UK) »

History of Clent
Edited a number of Worcesershire Historical Society Journals. eg Habingtons Survey of Worcestershire, Churchwardens Accounts
Botany of Worcestersaire
he indexed Nash's History of Worcestershire [a massive 2 volumes set of books].

Try Worcestershire Historical Society to see if they have a biography of him
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 26 January 06 21:19 GMT (UK) »

In Bromsgrove there are several, one a farmer from Grimley stopping with someone, and this family in High Street:

AMPHLET Joseph 40 Grocer
Elizabeth wife 25
Joseph son 7
Josiah son 5
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 26 January 06 21:40 GMT (UK) »

sorry that was on the 1851 cenus return   Embarrassed
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 26 January 06 22:23 GMT (UK) »

EBN,
Thanks very much for all this.  I need to discover as much as I can about this AMPHLETT family in Worcs before I can decide whether any of that family might have migrated up to North-West England.  It really is needle in a haystack time with these two Mary Amphlett individuals, one marrying in Saddleworth in 1791, and another marrying in Ashton-U-Lyne in 1792.  I am convinced one of them is the reason that William Amphlett DYSON was baptised (where? when? circa 1794/5) with that unusual middle name...
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Re: AMPHLETT surname in Worcestershire
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 19 March 06 22:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
My G-Grandmother was friends of a Lady Amphlett who lived at Amphlett House in Bromsgrove.  Amphlett House is still standing and is at the back of St. John's Nursing Home.
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