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adrian denney
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well here goes . may be some kind person can help with the following.
am looking for the gilbert family poss curzen street larne 1900ish.
head of house hold Samuel gilbert ( Sammy) wife Elizabeth (nee little) (Betty)
son Samuel ? Kenny son? only other connection is whitelaw larne.
Betty (Elizabeth came over from Scotland canonbie dumfrieshire)
please please can any one help. 
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LANCASHIRE :Kirkby Ireleth, Denney,Denny,Savage,Walker,Cooke,Singleton. & Hornby/Gressingham/Heysham, Nicholson,Mason,Clifton,Dodd.
WESTMORLAND: Beck,Nicholson,Airey,Armer,Herd,Langhorn,Chapman,Tyson.
YORKSHIRE : Stephenson,Nicholson.
SCOTLAND. Canonbie, Little,Hogg
IRELAND Gallagher,Gilbert
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Christopher
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This is all a bit vague. " ish " is an imprecise terminology allowing maybe twenty years either direction.
I have a couple of queries which may assist in pointing the search in the right direction
What is the religious persuasion of the family ?
It appears you have some info about Betty. Would that include her DOB ?
The only Samuel Gilbert I have found to date came from Thornfall, Kilwaughter, Co. Antrim and he is shown as having signed the Ulster Covenant 1912 http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/ulster_covenant.htm
One of the librarians at Larne Library might do a directory look up in order to obtain a more precise date -
Larne Library, 36 Pound Street, Larne. Co Antrim BT40 1SQ
Telephone: 028 2827 7047 Fax: 028 2827 7047
Email: Larne.Library[at]NI-Libraries.NET
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adrian denney
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the reason that i have put ish is that we are not to sure. as using my mothers memory and as she is 82 she is uncertain. SAM Gilbert's wife Elizabeth (Betty) was born in Scotland 1883/4 to a Mary little and we believe christened Elizabeth armstrong little.. cannot find her marrying in Scotland but she is the mother of a Sam and Kenny gilbert. the only other info we have is Kenny was a teacher ? at Belfast univ (again old lady's mind he poss taught art) as for religion don't know.
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LANCASHIRE :Kirkby Ireleth, Denney,Denny,Savage,Walker,Cooke,Singleton. & Hornby/Gressingham/Heysham, Nicholson,Mason,Clifton,Dodd.
WESTMORLAND: Beck,Nicholson,Airey,Armer,Herd,Langhorn,Chapman,Tyson.
YORKSHIRE : Stephenson,Nicholson.
SCOTLAND. Canonbie, Little,Hogg
IRELAND Gallagher,Gilbert
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scotmum
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According to IGI, there was a Samuel Gilbert born 26/7/1866 at Larne to a Sarah Gilbert. If you know that 'your' Sam was quite a bit older than his wife then this is a possibility. The name Samuel Gilbert also appears in Killwaughter and Larne in the 1820's and 30's - these may be ancestors of your Sam. Will post again if I find anything else.
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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saz1401
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No trace of marriage for Samuel and Elizabeth (Betty) on BIVRI.
There are no Ken Gilberts on BIVRI and these are the Samuels born last part of 1800s
GILBERT, Samuel
Chr 1882 Engl Derb Brampt
Fa: Samuel GILBERT
Mo: Ann
GILBERT, Samuel William
Chr 1884 Engl Warw Leamin
Fa: Samuel William GILBERT
Mo: Sarah Ann
GILBERT, Samuel James
B ir 1891 Engl Staf TunSuT
Fa: Samuel GILBERT
Mo: Mary
GILBERT, Samuel
Chr 1904
Engl Staf DanWed
Fa: Jubal GILBERT
Mo: Mary Jane
Don't know if this will be of any help! 
saz
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antrim, donegore, ballycraigy, doagh, ballysavage, carnmoney, ballyhenry, belfast, mallusk, hydepark names - twigg, gault, robinson, stevenson, todd, kirkpatrick, porter, mayne, topping, McDowell, douglas
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Christopher
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Adrian,
It should be possible to find some information about Kenny. Colleges, schools and universities tend to publish registers which mention staff and students.
I tried NI Libraries online catalogue for a register for Queens University, Belfast but had no success there. You say Kenny possibly taught art. My mother studied art in late 1920s - early 1930s at the College of Art in the Belfast Technical College.
Would the time frame that Kenny was teaching be 1920s to 1960s ?
Best Wishes, Christopher
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Kellie Gilbert
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A Samuel Gilbert was my Great Grand Father and he was from Larne but I am going to have to check the information I have about him. If you have any photos of him it would help.
Do you know if he had any other children?
From Kellie Gilbert
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Christopher
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Hello Kellie,
Did you get a reply, possibly a PM or an email, about your great Grandfather Samuel Gilbert from Larne
All the Best,
Chris
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Kellie Gilbert
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I have had no luck trying to find any info about him(Sam). My Father would love to find any of my Grandfathers brothers or sisters,even there children, but the problem is we don't really know any details about them.
Kellie
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Christopher
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Hello Kellie,
I guess your Great Grandfather may have been born around 1900. There are still some families with the surname Gilbert in Larne and the area around Larne. The Phone Book for Northern Ireland 2003 listed four living in Larne. The Central Library in Belfast were unable to offer me current phone directories. I will ask the Linenhall Library when I am next in Belfast if they have current phone directories. There used to be one Phone Book for Northern Ireland. The last one was published in 2003. We now have several, I think six, for the area. Everyone I know is holding on, like grim death, to their 2003 directory as it covers the whole area. It is much easier to do a look up in one than search through six.
I looked at www.proni.gov.uk/ulstercovenantsearch and found five people with the Gilbert surname in Larne signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912.
Rose Gilbert, Kilwaughter
Agnes Gilbert, Kilwaughter
Mrs Gilbert, 5, Poaguestown
Robert Gilbert, Larne
William Gilbert, Kilwaughter
All the Best,
Christopher
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scotmum
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If you go to
192.com
and type Gilbert in name and Larne in place
it returns 3 telephone numbers/addresses plus indicates 21 Electoral Register entries (albeit you would need to pay to reveal addresses of the latter).
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STEWART, Lanarkshire, Scotland and Fermanagh/Monaghan border areas, Ireland
LILLEY, County Antrim, Ireland (now NI).
HENDERSON,Lanarkshire,Scotland and probably County Londonderry, Ireland (now NI).
CAPE Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
SCOTT Cumberland, England & Lanarkshire, Scotland
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FionaLorraine
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I searched the Ulster Historical Foundation Database who list all the heads of households in Larne in 1901 - the town of Larne itself just. The only two Gilberts I could find were:
GILBERT Robert Head 42 M P Blacksmith Bank Road
GILBERT Matilda Wife 34 M P Bank Road
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Palmer Website: www.davyboynorth.f2s.com/SamPalmer/00]SamPalmerStory.asp Palmers, Barrs and McGarrys from Antrim/Ballyrobin/Muckamore/Crumlin McAleaveys from Forkhill Co Armagh and then Whitewell/Glengormley Traynors/Trainor from Larne then Whitewell/Glengormley also Glasgow |
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adrian denney
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thanks for every one looking and trying to help. it would seem its just a brick wall...........i can't even find Elizabeth little or armstrong or armstrong little on any 1901 census for england /Scotland or any where else................... even try-ed wales....................... am puzzled......... but thanks again. your all very kind.
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LANCASHIRE :Kirkby Ireleth, Denney,Denny,Savage,Walker,Cooke,Singleton. & Hornby/Gressingham/Heysham, Nicholson,Mason,Clifton,Dodd.
WESTMORLAND: Beck,Nicholson,Airey,Armer,Herd,Langhorn,Chapman,Tyson.
YORKSHIRE : Stephenson,Nicholson.
SCOTLAND. Canonbie, Little,Hogg
IRELAND Gallagher,Gilbert
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