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The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« on: Thursday 21 April 05 22:07 BST (UK) »
   Smiley Hi all,
           
           Just been having a look at various sites on the subject.

           Type in "Oregon Trail Dairies" in to search engine,

               There are several families doing the 2000 mile trek.

              If you come across the Norris family let me know.  Wink

                  Lesanne.
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 23:56 BST (UK) »


Hi Lesanne
Have you tried this site for the Oregon Trail

http://www.octa-trails.org/

They have a data base of names and lots of other stuff for the Trails

Regards
Annie
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 00:20 BST (UK) »
 Smiley Hi Annie,
              Thanks for that site, it looks good.

                                  Shame I would only be guessing at the date and that the family
   did do the trail. The charge is $10 dollars per name per 5 yr span.

                                  This "hobby" of our's has already seen off quite a bit to much.
                          I think that I shall have to leave this one as is. That William Norris and
            his wife Sarah left England for New lenox and Salem, Illinois around 1848.

                           How they got there and what they did, where thier children are,
                                 I shall never know.

                                                    Lesanne.    Cry
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 00:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesanne

I don't know if NARA (the American National Archives ) has anything - I'm sure they do !
if you find anything pertinent that maybe I could look up for you at their research office  - let me know  - I'd be glad to help you if I can!

Annie
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 00:36 BST (UK) »
Cheesy  Hey Wow, that's really kind of you but I have nothing else to go on other than the census records for them in Illinois from 1850.
     The missing Andrew Albert Norris (b1852 in Islip, Oxon) is William's nephew and I can't find him anywhere in England. Been trying since 1965.  I hoped he may have visited his uncle.
      I found  an Andrew in prison in Oregon, wrote to their archives but that Andrew was from Penslyvania ?!?
         But it's been fun, following them to the U.S.

                           Thanks again. Lesanne.  Smiley
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 00:42 BST (UK) »


Lesanne
One day when you have plenty of time to spare try

http://www.archives.gov/

That's NARA -  even if you don't find what you want -  you can spend hours finding all kinds of great stuff...last time I was on there -  I happened to look at the clock and it was 4am.........!!
Try it see what you can find
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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 05:35 BST (UK) »
OK Lesanne
Here's what I have - you tell me if you know this stuff already.....

1861 Steeple Clayton - 1871 Banbury Oxford - 1881 St George Martyr London - 1891 Newbury Berks - 1901 Henley Oxford  -  all for Andrew Norris Sr( born 1827 Islip Oxon) and family

In 1861 Andrew Albert Norris Jr. was 8 years old ( born Islip Oxon )

then - I have

Name             Albert A  Norrris  (note name wrong way round ?)
Arrival            1st June 1888
age                34
Port of departure Liverpool
Port of entry       New York
Ship                   Britannic
Occupation         Physician
Source               New York Port 1851-1891

Does any of this sound familiar? I will post census if you need them - English ones that is - I don't have the American ones yet !

Regards
Annie

PS Here's something else I found Huh-
Andrew Albert Norris
age 47
Death Mar 1901
Reading Berks
Vol 2c Pg. 250
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Be who you are and say what you feel -  because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss

Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5

"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 07:39 BST (UK) »
Lesanne...

Here is the 1860 info...

New Lenox IL
1860....

Wm Norris 37 farmer born Eng
Sarah 37 born Eng
Edward 13  born Illinois
Sidney 11 Illinois
Wm. 9 Illinois
Amelia 7 Illinois
Ida 5 Illinois
Fred 4 Illinois
Elizabeth 1 Illinois

Hope this helps...

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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 08:57 BST (UK) »
Hi There,
     Thanks for that, Children just rushing to get to school so I must look at my dates. The Andrew, yes have his info, he is Andrew Albert's father. But I haven't anything on AA at all.

  Thanks  so much. Must dash. Lesanne.  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 14:32 BST (UK) »
Hiya, I'm back.
                 Rightio, 
                      Yep, the death in Reading.  Is that 2 yrs to young. But it's the only
          Andrew Albert around. So I can't dismiss it.

                      There is also a marriage in Totnes in Mar 1881 but our AA has no bride !!!
          typical. I have checked out the other couple...

           I would really appreciate the 1861 english census, as that would show me, not
            only Andrew & Mary, but also Henry b Jun1851 and A A b Aug 1852,
             possibly others before Thomas.

             Has the 1891 got anybody else on it?

             On the U.S. 1850 census for William & Sarah in New Lenox Illinois.
              I have Albert has the first born in Illinois c1846.
                 Would there be any reference to the birthplace of his mum and dad
                   on any of his American certificates etc.    Grin

                                     Lesanne.   Thanks for all your time. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 15:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
1861 UK census information for Andrew NORRIS and family:

RG9/878, ED 7, Folio 108, Page 12

NORRIS
Andrew, b 1853, Islip
Andrew, b 1826, Islip
Ann, b 1856, Claydon, Bucks
Henry, b 1852, Islip
Mary, b 1829 Thorpe Manderville, Norfolk
Sarah, b 1830 Claydon, Bucks
Thomas, b 1854, Islip

Family living at Steeple Claydon, Bucks.

Hope this helps

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 18:26 BST (UK) »
 Cheesy Hi Grub,
                Thanks for taking the time to post the above 1861 census.

               Do tell me if this posting is as on your census?

               You see, I have various marriage / birth cert's.

              Andrew 1853...is? Andrew Albert 1852.
              Henry 1852.....is? Henry Wall 1851.

               Sarah 1830...could you give her surname.. as I have a Sarah b 1862.
                 It may be that she is an unknown (to me) sister to Andrew Snr !!

                                 Lesanne.   Cool
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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 18:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Lesanne

Well AA only appears on the 1861 census aged 8 he doesn't show up on any of the others

here's 1891
22 Midgeham Green Newbury Berks

Andrew Norris aged 64 General Labourer    Deaf ( did you know that? )
Mary Norris     aged 61 Launderess b. Thorpe Mandaville Northants
Henrietta        aged 16 Launderess b. Holborn London


He seemed to have been deaf for a while I don't think it was just old age....

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Re: The Oregon Trail. 1820 - 1870.
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 18:38 BST (UK) »

Lesanne

if you pm your email address to me -  I'll send you the image !
Annie

and the others!!!!!
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"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 20:57 BST (UK) »
 Cheesy Hey Annie,
                         Thanks Annie for all your info.

                           If only I had that info before.
                     It has answered so many questions.

                              Will get back to you once I have condensed it. Grin

                                                 Lesanne.
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