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mfcnt
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H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« on: Friday 22 April 05 07:06 BST (UK) »

Hi

I have traced a guest of HM Prision Bodmin in the 1881 Census

Luke Ross

Prisioner,  Occupation Gunner R.A

does anybody know what "Gunner R.A." means and how I could find out why he was a guest of HM

thanks

Cass
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 22 April 05 09:20 BST (UK) »

Hi Cass

He was a soldier - gunner in the Royal Artillery but as to why he was there  Huh

It might be worth enquiring with the Cornwall record office to see if they have any records of prisoners at Bodmin for this time period:

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/cro/service.htm

Best wishes

Casalguidi
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 23 April 05 00:05 BST (UK) »

hi cass,
i am also trying to track down records of bodmin jail so will let you know as soon as i get lucky, though checking out various sites it seemed people were imprisoned for so many trivial things , was he based in bodmin ?as there was also the duke of cornwalls light infantry regt in bodmin and would connect to your info. re artillery perhaps he was based there,
will keep you informed
krissy
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elsie ellen
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 07:01 GMT (UK) »

Hello Krissy!

Just came across your posting and hope you don't mind my asking you a few questions as you seem to have been doing some research on the Bodmin gaol.

I am interested in researching two hangings that happened there in
1791 and 1795. Not sure yet if the persons involved are connected to my family - one a villain and the other a victim - but surnames have caught my attention.  James SYMONS was hanged and Sarah JANE was robbed. I had family members living in,and near, Bodmin during these years with these surnames.

Can you tell me if it is possible to find any information about a prisoner and their trials? Where do I begin? Any suggestions please?

Cheers from Australia.  Smiley Smiley
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 09:53 GMT (UK) »

If you go to

http://www.a2a.org.uk/

and enter "bodmin gaol" in the search criteria you will find a large number of records.  Most of these are for individual prisoners but there is certainly evidence that at one time it was a naval prison.  Maybe it was a military prison as well.

"bodmin jail"  produced further entries but I didn't try "bodmin prison"

David
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 11:46 GMT (UK) »

hi elsie ellen
i have just found your james symons not much info tho only that he was executed on bodmin moor on 31st march 1791 age 25 for stealing an ox, bit harsh eh?
as for sarah jane do you have a last name?  only 2 executions i can find for 1795 only 1 for a robbery but no info as to what or who was robbed , his name was james frederick  aged 33 executed  on 9th april 1795, the other execution was of a joseph williams on 27th aug 1795 for stealing an ox.
i am trying to find more info on the gaol so will keep you up to date with any new info ok
krissy
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Re: H M Prison Bodmin 1881 Luke ROSS, Gunner R.A.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 12:11 GMT (UK) »

Hi David and Krissy!

Thought I'd check the email just before heading to bed. Very happy to have heard from you both.  Smiley Smiley Thank you both for the information you have posted.

David, I followed the link and will try to contact the CRO tomorrow.

Krissy...Seems rugged to be hanged for stealing an ox. Given the times, transportation, but execution! JANE is Sarah's surname. A common misunderstanding. I think my mother was glad to change her surname when she married! She used to get frustrated, as a child, trying to convince adults she wasn't being difficult by refusing to give her surname!!! The James Frederick mentioned is the one I am referring to in my posting.

I would appreciate your passing on any information as you come across it and I will reciprocate, if I come across anything from here in Australia.

Again, thanks to you both.

Cheers

Elsie Ellen

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