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ostarkly
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Hamilton Lookup
« on: Saturday 23 April 05 07:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Looking for David Hamilton b 1838 in the 1841 or 1851 census?

Would some kind soul let me know the composition of David's family?

By 1856 he was in New Zealand.

Many thanks
Hugh from sunny Nelson
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 23 April 05 13:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

There is only one David Hamilton in the 1851 census index

Hamilton   Alice   10      2149   148   39
Hamilton   Benjamin   39      2149   148   39
Hamilton   David   11      2149   148   39
Hamilton   James   10   m   2149   148   39
Hamilton   Jane   13      2149   148   39
Hamilton   Joseph   2      2149   148   39
Hamilton   Margaret   5      2149   148   39
Hamilton   Sarah   34      2149   148   39

Also there is a William Harrison aged 29 with the same folio numbers etc.

Hope this helps
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 May 05 03:13 UTC (UK) »

I found that David Wilson Hamilton, actually took the name Hambleton! Could you find that record in the 2 early census from Derbyshire (Ashford)?

Cheers
Hugh
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 May 05 23:01 UTC (UK) »

Hello Hugh,  In sunny Nelson (I'm jealous)!!    Wink

I think this is your family -

1841

Ashford

Benjamin Hamilton   30    Miner    born in County - yes
Sarah Hamilton       25                       yes
Jane Hamiton          3                        yes
David Hamiton         1                        yes

                                         (HO107/ 183/ 1/ 7)
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There are two other Hamilton families that appear on the same page (I thought I'd include them as they may be related??)

Elizabeth Hamilton   55   Widow       yes
John Hamilton         25                  yes
James Hamiton       15                   yes
Elizabeth Hamilton   14                  yes
Mary Ann                4                   yes
~~~~~~~~-----

Daniel Hamilton       60    Lead Miner             yes
Elizabeth Hamilton   55                                yes
Francis Hamilton     25                                yes            
David Hamilton       15     Carpenter              yes
Mary Hamilton        20                                yes
James Wilson         35     Framework Knitter   yes
John Wilson           25     Carpenter              yes
John Goodman        40     
William Goodman     18                                yes


Hope these are of use to you

Good luck in your research
Sue - in drizzly Norfolk    Grin Grin
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 07:47 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for your look up. Are you able/willing to send me the information that you have provided in a scanned form?

Would appreciate that.

Also, the interesting fact is that in this census he is HAMILTON, but I have him in other times as HAMBLETON. Sadly, a decision to round to the nearest 5 has hit these families too, as I know that the David is born in 1823, but they have him as 15. I guess accuracy in those days wasn't the purpose of the data collection.

Cheers
Hugh                                            ostarkly(a)xtra.co.nz
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 08:37 UTC (UK) »

Hello Hugh

On your original posting you asked for David Hamilton born 1838 which puts the information that me and bagpuss supplied about right with the ages.  Are you now saying you are looking for David Hambleton born 1823? 

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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 08:44 UTC (UK) »

Me being a dick.

David Wilson Hamilton, born 9 Feb 1823, Ashford in the Water, Derbyshire, England.

I made mental a calculation when we I was looking at a mail, but it has been a tough day at work. Yes, I know, forget the calculation and just call me mental.

David came to NZ in 1856, and married 3 times. My grandmother was a Hamilton before marriage, hence the interest.

Cheers
Hugh (was sunny today too! :-)  )
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 08:49 UTC (UK) »

Forgot to add, that his surname is "flexible". My grandmoter recalls one of her relys going to the church and talking with a minister, who just happened to have some notes... The minister said that one of the previous encumbants had scribbled something to the effect "...have been away for a while and Mr Hambleton would appear to have changed his name to Hamilton..."

The thot plickens...

Sorry for the confusion.

Hugh
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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 09:24 UTC (UK) »

Hello again

Here is a David Hambleton aged 28 in the 1851 census index

Piece 2149 Folio 149 Sch.48 (which covers Ashford)

Hambleton   David   28   2149   149   48
Hambleton   David   1   2149   149   48
Hambleton   Elizabeth   3   2149   149   48
Hambleton   Enoch   4   2149   149   48
Hambleton   Martha   30   2149   149   48

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Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw
Worcestershire - Dyson, Summers, Dearn, Jones
Warwickshire - Russon
Leicestershire - Stodd, Sarson, Berridge, Watts, Bradshaw.
Middlesex / Surrey - Markham, Pearce, Kalaher, Barrett

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Re: Hamilton Lookup
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 11 May 05 09:33 UTC (UK) »

That's our man... the bugger. His wife is Martha Handley. She tried to have 2 boys in successive years called Handley, but they both died as infants and she died horribly 3 months after the last child was born.

Thanks for confirming that for me. As you can see, his name isn't the same between the 1841 and 1851 census. Makes it difficult to research.

Cheers
Hugh
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