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« on: Friday 11 June 04 02:17 BST (UK) »

Hullo Chris, everyone!
I am looking up another branch of my tree now ...
in Hastings.
My uncle Jim (Alfred James I believe) was born in Hastings, I believe his father was Frederick Harold Prince (1872 - 1912)? who had Jim and two other sons - Frederick Harold, George Harvey.

I have both Freds and Ellen for 1901 census, can't find anyone else.
Frederick Harold Sr. married Ellen Hook d.o.b. Dec. 6 1872 - 1943, her father was Edward James Hook, mother's maiden name Ashdown.
I'd sure appreciate ANYTHING else you can find on these families in Hastings, Chris!  Ta ever so.
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 June 04 10:06 BST (UK) »

Hi there

I think this is your Frederick Harold born about 1872 taken from the 1891 census on line



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« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 June 04 10:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Here is your Edward James Hook and Family including his mother in law taken from the 1891 census
RG12/ 760/ Folio 84/ Page 14. Richmond Street, Halton, - Parish of St Clemets.



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« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 June 04 10:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Here is the full family listing of your Edward James Hook and family

RG12/ 760/ Folio 84/ Page 14 -- 2 & 3 Richmond Street, Halton, Hastings.

Hook, Alice Maud 16 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Annie 13 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Edward James 44 Hastings, Sussex Head  St Clement  Sussex, Bricklayers Labourer.  
Hook, Edward James 22 Hastings, Sussex Son  St Clement  Sussex, Bricklayers Labourer  
Hook, Eleanor Mary 10 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Ellen 41 Hastings, Sussex Wife  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Emily 5 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Florence elizth 2 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, George 9 Hastings, Sussex Son  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, William John 7 Hastings, Sussex Son  St Clement  Sussex
Ashdown, Sarah Ann, 61, Ore, Sussex, Mother in Law, Widow, St Clement, Sussex,  

I will now try to locate Ellen for you

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 June 04 11:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Found Ellen in Hastings, she is a general servant as shown below:

Godden, Frank G 3 Hastings, Sussex Son  St Clement  Sussex - Coal Merchant.  
Godden, Mary M 36 Islington, Middlesex Wife  St Clement  Sussex  
Godden, Robert M 39 Ruckinge, Kent Head  St Clement  Sussex  
Hook, Ellen 18 Hastings, Sussex Servant  St Clement  Sussex  

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 June 04 11:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Here is the full details of the census scan for Frederick Prince

Database: 1891 England Census

RG12/ 760/ Folio 63/ Page 31 - 1 Winding Street, Hastings
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Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County
 
Prince, Charles 18 Hastings, Sussex Brother  St Clement  Sussex - Fishmongers Assistant.  
Prince, Emily !! Hastings, Sussex Wife  St Clement  Sussex  
Prince, Emily 4 Hastings, Sussex Daughter  St Clement  Sussex  
Prince, Frederick 19 Hastings, Sussex Brother  St Clement  Sussex - Drapers Assistant
Prince, George 27 Hastings, Sussex Head  St Clement  Sussex - Excavator

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 June 04 11:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Here are your families on the 1881 census

Household:
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Edward J. HOOK   Head   M   Male   33   Hastings, Sussex, England   General Labourer    
 Ellen HOOK   Wife   M   Female   30   Hastings, Sussex, England        
 Edward J. HOOK   Son      Male   12   Hastings, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Ellen HOOK   Daur      Female   8   Hastings, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Ellis HOOK   Daur      Female   6   Hastings, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Ann HOOK   Daur      Female   2   Hastings, Sussex, England        
 Ellenor M. WINGFIELD   Nurse Child      Female   3 m   Hastings, Sussex, England        
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Source Information:
  Dwelling   10 Lennox St
  Census Place Hastings St Clement, Sussex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341242
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1023 / 98
  Page Number   43

Household:
 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 George PRINCE   Head   M   Male   44   Portsmouth, Hampshire, England   Cordwainer    
 Harriett C. PRINCE   Wife   M   Female   39   Hasting, Sussex, England        
 George H. PRINCE   Son   U   Male   17   Hasting, Sussex, England   Errd Boy    
 Frank H. PRINCE   Son      Male   9   Hasting, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Charles V. PRINCE   Son      Male   7   Hasting, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Emily E. PRINCE   Daur      Female   4   Hasting, Sussex, England   Scholar    
 Rosa H. PRINCE   Daur      Female   10 m   Hasting, Sussex, England        
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Source Information:
  Dwelling   5 Grimers Cotts
  Census Place Hastings All Sts, Sussex, England
  Family History Library Film   1341242
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1022 / 47
  Page Number   43
 
Hope the above suits your reasearch

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 June 04 13:38 BST (UK) »

Hi Janine

Yes, I know you said that you have the 1901 for your 2 Edwards and Ellen - but am slowly working my way through the list from 1881 and 1891

Database: 1901 England Census
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Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Ellen Prince 28  Hastings, Sussex, England Wife  Peasmarsh  Sussex    
Frederick H Prince 29  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  Peasmarsh  Sussex    
Frederick H Prince 1 6 months  Hastings, Sussex, England Son  Peasmarsh  Sussex

Database: 1901 England Census.
RG13/ 865/ Floio 98/ Page 26 - Halton, Hastings.
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Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island  
Caroline Hook 29  Hastings, Sussex, England Wife  St Clement  Sussex    
Edward Hook 32  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  St Clement  Sussex    
Edward Hook 10  Hastings, Sussex, England Son  St Clement  Sussex    
George Hook 8  Hastings, Sussex, England Son  St Clement  Sussex

RG13/ 861/ Folio 22/ Page 3 - Beckley, Sussex
Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Alice Brigstock 35  Camberwell, London, England Wife  Beckley  Sussex    
Arthur Brigstock 37  Northants, Northamptonshire, England Head  Beckley  Sussex    
Emily Hook 15  Hastings, Sussex, England Servant  Beckley  Sussex    
Cecil H Morris 23  Camberwell, London, England Boarder  Beckley  Sussex

Looks like Ellens mum also moved to Peasmarsh with her two youngest daughters

RG13/ 860/ Folio 55/ Page 8 - Peasmarsh, Sussex.
Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Ellen Hook 49  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  Peasmarsh  Sussex    
Florence E Hook 13  Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  Peasmarsh  Sussex    
Sarah A Hook 10  Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  Peasmarsh  Sussex  
 
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 June 04 14:25 BST (UK) »

Hi Again

Database: 1901 England Census
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RG13/ 870/ Folio 92/ Page 25 - Hastings, St Mary Magdalen
Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Charles Prince 28  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  St Mary Magdalene  Sussex    
Mary Prince 28  Ireland Wife  St Mary Magdalene  Sussex

Database: 1901 England Census
RG13/ 865/ Folio54/ Page 22 - Ore, Hastings
Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
Emily Prince 38  Ore Hastings, Sussex, England Wife  St Clement  Sussex    
Emily R Prince 14  Ore Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  St Clement  Sussex    
George H Prince 37  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  St Clement  Sussex  


I think thats about all I can find in the 1901 census for the moment - most of the females Hooks and Princes would have changed their names upon marriage, so not easy to locate them.

That should give you a bit to work on!!

If you require any more help - you know how to contact me

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 June 04 03:53 BST (UK) »

I don't know if I have missed anything important or not ...

Undecided

I could not see the photos you sent me I assume they were census pages, all I got was the little red x in a box!!

But thanks so much for all the other info Chris.
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 17:45 BST (UK) »

Just an addition to the 1901 census information

Ann Hook married Gabriel John Catt 1895.
1901
Serpentine Cottages, 21  Percy Road,Ore
Rg13  862 Folio 69 Page 27 Schedule 164

Alice Maud Hook married George Vennall Neve in 1899. Sorry, don't have the full census details for them.

Ann and Gabriel were my gt grandparents
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 18:07 BST (UK) »

Hi

RG13/ 862/ Folio 69/Page 27 - Serpentine Cottages, Percy Road, Ore

Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island
 
Ann Catt 22  Halton;Hastings, Sussex, England Wife  St Helen  Sussex   
Frederick B Catt 1  Ore;Hastings, Sussex, England Son  St Helen  Sussex   
Gabriel J Catt 23  Ore;Hastings, Sussex, England Head  St Helen  Sussex   
Gabriel J Catt 5  Halton;Hastings, Sussex, England Son  St Helen  Sussex   


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PS - In later years, my wifes grandparents lived in 32 Percy Road.


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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 July 04 18:16 BST (UK) »

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RG13/ 865/ Folio 56/ Page 25 - 14 Windings Street, St Clements, Hastings

Name Age in 1901 Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish County/Island 
 
Alice C Neve 5  Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  St Clement  Sussex   
Alice M Neve 25  Hastings, Sussex, England Wife  St Clement  Sussex   
Eva M Neve 5 months  Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  St Clement  Sussex   
George V Neve 25  Hastings, Sussex, England Head  St Clement  Sussex   
Nellie M Neve 3  Hastings, Sussex, England Daughter  St Clement  Sussex   


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« Reply #13 on: Friday 24 September 04 18:12 BST (UK) »

Janine, I see you are hunting Prince's in Hastings.

I have recently traced one of my ancestors, William Herbert Prince's death certificate - he died as a young man of 32 in 1893 from tuberculosis. He was born in Hillingdon and worked/ lived as a police officer in London, however on his death cert it states that he died at 53 Western Rd. St. Mary Magdalyn, Hastings, England. I do not know why he was in Hastings and had assumed that he just went to stay by the sea during his illness, but the possibility exists that he went to stay with family that I have not yet located.

Anything here that rings a bell?

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 24 September 04 19:00 BST (UK) »

Hi there

Hastings in the mid and late 1800's was famous for its TB Hospital - lots of people came here for treatment and the sea air.

One of my wifes ancestors The Rev Johnathan Eastwood - Clerk in Holy Orders, died aged 40 in the Parish of St Mary Magdalen, St Leonards on Sea, East Sussex. (next street to Western Road)   A plot of ground was purchased in Hastings Cemetery by Mrs Ann Elizabeth Eastwood (nee Dixon)  of Hope Parsonage, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire.
Rev Johnathan Eastwood from Eccles in Yks - curate of Ecclesfield, YKS 1854 - 1862  curate of Eckington in Derbyshire. 1862 - 1864 vicar of Hope in Staffordshire.  Author of  "History of Eccelsfield and District" (took 14 years to write) that was published by Bell and Daldy in 1862

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