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samthompson
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Hello
I can't find your Sarah or James in Canada yet but here is a long shot - is this your Sarah Bedford in 1891 in England
Piece: RG12/127 Place: Pancras-London Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical Parish: St Pancras Parish Ch
Folio: 162 Page: 6 Schedule: 35
Address: 27 Ossulston St
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
BEDFORD Edward Head M M 32 Pastry Cook(Em'ee) London - Mile End
BEDFORD Sarah Wife M F 32 London - Stepney
BEDFORD Frederick Son - M 10 Scholar London - Bermondsey
BEDFORD Alice Dau - F 8 Scholar London - Mile End
BEDFORD William Son - M 4 Scholar London - Mile End
BEDFORD Jessie Dau - F 1 London - Chelsea
Do you have any other information about Sarah or James? Did they have brothers or sisters that may have come to Canada as well? What about Horace Edward Bedford - do you know if he had brothers or sisters?
Let me know if you any other clues and I will see what I can find here in Canada
Sincerely
Sam
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Tony Drew
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You have really thrown the cat among the pigeons with this entry on the 1891 Census.
I have the following entry from the 1881 Census and in particular for Sarah her birth certificate, and the wedding Certificate -
Horace Edward Bedford b. about 1858 Mile End
Sarah Rachel Bedford b. 3.11.1858 Mile End (christened in Stepney) - her maiden name was Drew.
Walter Bedford b. about 1881 Bermondsey
In the 1881 Census they were running a Public House, but Horace's profession on the Wedding Certificate was "Cook".
So if Horace is not using his first name, and the son Walter also has the name Frederick then I guess the odds are that it is the same family, thank you. They must have migrated a lot later than I thought.
As for James Drew, the only thing I know is that he was employed by the Canadian Government and that for some reason he visited England in an official capacity, roughly about 1930 (+ or -), because he visited his siblings then. Does the Canadian Goverment maintain a list of its employees ?
Thank you, samthompson
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Drew - Wiltshire pre 1850, London post 1850
Tyler - London since 1800
Sizer - Lincolnshire (all)
Burton - Derbyshire pre 1900, Lincolnshire post 1880
Croysdill - Derbyshire (all)
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samthompson
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Hi Tony
Well, if that is them in the 1891 census then this may be of interest to you as well
from the 1901 census of England
Sarah Bedford 41 London Stepney London Mile End Old Town Laundress
Alice Bedford 18 London Mile End London Mile End Old Town Cartridge Maker
William Bedford 14 London Mile End London Mile End Old Town Errand Boy
Jessie Bedford 11 London Chelsea London Mile End Old Town
I can't find Edward or Frederick (Walter) so they may be dead or in Canada. The rest of the family possibly followed later. If that is so then this may be a clue
Western Land Grants (1870-1930)
Search terms : " : 2=1 : 1=(BEDFORD AND FRED).R100. : " References: 1 - 1 of 1 Legal Land Description
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1 NE 12 27 11 W2
Part Section Township Range Meridian
Reference:
Liber: 367
Folio: 321
File reel number: C-6229
Names: Fred Bedford
The Liber number tells that the homestead was final in
367 May 13, 1909 - May 22, 1909 C-6228-C-6229
so was filed in about 1904. It could be your Fred maybe.
I have looked without luck in the 1906 Canadian Census but it is not all transcribed so perhaps they will turn up. Also, Saskatchewan is planning on putting their BMD index online in the fall of 2005 so you could search then for the Bedfords or Drews.
I keep looking around here. Maybe you will be able to track down some clues about the 1901 census - if you can get a look at the actual page that Sarah is on it should list if she is a widow or if her husband is away.
Good Luck
Sam
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samthompson
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Hi Tony
I usually include the links but got distracted yesterday
here is a link to a homesteaders cabin so you have an idea what Fred's might have looked like. Depending on how good you were at building, if your neighbors helped, etc some were bigger and more finished but a lot looked like this. My Norwegian great grandmother raised a family of 5 in an Alberta cabin very much like this one.
Clcik Here
Here is the search site for homesteads in Canada
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/02011102_e.html
search this site using any name you are looking for, there are help screens, maps, etc
Fred Bedford homesteaded near Yorkton Saskatchewan. In 1905 and era this was likely a rather remote, sparsely popuated area. There is a local history book that mentions a Fred Bedford -
Title: So Much is Ours : history of Ituna-Hubbard area
Author: Ituna, Hubbard and Area History Book Committee,
Publisher: Ituna, Saskatchewan: Ituna, Hubbard and Area History Book Committee, 1985
I will see if I can find a copy here in Alberta
I'll see if I can find anyone in Saksatchewan who can help get the homestead papers as well. They will give a lot of information about Fred and may help determine if he is your Fred.
Are there are records to determine if the Bedfords stayed in England
- WW 1 records for William (possibly Fred if the one in Canada is not the right one)
- marriage records for Alice, Jessie, Annie etc.
Good luck and I will let you know what I can track down
Thelma
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samthompson
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Hello
a little more digging found this - the Fred Bedford who lived in Ituna, SK, Canada had a younger brother Daniel who immigrated a few years later. This is their family in 1881
James BEDFORD Head M Male 46 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farmer 130 Acrs Employing 5 Men
Jane BEDFORD Wife M Female 46 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farmer Wife
Elizabeth BEDFORD Daur U Female 22 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farmer Daugh Home Helper
Fred BEDFORD Son U Male 19 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farm Labourer Son (Ag Lab)
Ann BEDFORD Daur U Female 13 Chesham, Buckingham, England Scholar
Emma BEDFORD Daur Female 11 Chesham, Buckingham, England Scholar
Alfred BEDFORD Son Male 9 Chesham, Buckingham, England Scholar
Maryann BEDFORD Daur Female 6 Chesham, Buckingham, England Scholar
Jane BEDFORD Daur Female 4 Chesham, Buckingham, England Scholar
Daniel BEDFORD Son Male 1 Chesham, Buckingham, England
William HOW Servant U Male 16 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farm Labourer (In Door)
James SMITH Boarder U Male 48 Chesham, Buckingham, England Farm Labourer (In Door)
So this is not your Fred Bedford. Is it possible that he stayed in England?
Still no leads on James Drew here in Canada yet. Is it possible that the woman who visited between the wars and was known as Aunt Sally was actually James' wife?
Still puzzling away at this one.
Thelma
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