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Topic: (Correction!!)Did Robert Whyte/White marry at 14yrs old? (Read 331 times)
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safarina
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Boy, was I ever confused...I have corrected what I should have written the first time. Hope it makes more sense now.
Robert White Nicol (b. abt 1855) married Jane Scott Nov 7, 1890 in Govan, Glasgow, Scotland. They married and lived in Govan and I have found most of the 14 children's birth records at High Church, Glasgow. I have not found them on any census yet as the children were born from 1891-1910 and only 7 reached adulthood. (I'm denied access to the newer census sites)
Robert's father, Henry Nicol b. 1832 married July 14,1854 to Christina Whyte
Christina's father Robert Whyte b. 1806 m. Christian Gilmour in 1820
Here's my confusion:
Christina's father Robert Whyte was born Mar 10, 1806 and christened Mar 16, 1806 Kinnettles, Angus, Scotland (he m. Christian Gilmour)
The marriage dates we have (Oct 22, 1820, and also Nov 17, 1820) would have made Robert Whyte only 14 years old when he married? Is this possible, and where would I be able to find out if either of these dates are valid? I can't find them on any of the census that are available to me.
Dorothy
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« Last Edit: Monday 25 April 05 21:03 BST (UK) by safarina »
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White--Scotland
Nicol--Scotland
Wicks--England and Canada
Turpett--England and Wales
Benjafield...England and Canada
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Little Nell
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Hi Dorothy,
I need some further explanation here - I can't get my head around this.
Christina Whyte/White and Henry Nicol married in 1854. How can their 14 children be born 1891-1910 when Christina (born 1832 according to the IGI) would have been aged 59 - 80 years old?
Robert Whyte (Christina's father) born 1806 and married 1880? And therefore only 14 years old?
I'm confused too
Nell
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Kevwood
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Dorothy, that means he married at 74 not 14 if born 1806 married 1880?
Kev.
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Kevwood
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Hi Dorothy.
Are you absolutely sure that the robert white that married christian gilmour is the correct one.
The robert white that married her says born glasgow,lanark about 1795 on some of the records.
I presume you got the dates from the familysearch website.
You are right that they are strange as has two different dates for the marriage.
Kev.
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sjsbc
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Hi,
Did you get the date for your possible marriages from the IGI?
The IGI is not complete, so although the names match they may not be correct.
The IGI implies that the Robert White given, was born c1795, this would make him 25 at marriage, which is more likely than 14.
Have you tried looking at Scotlands People for the marriage and or birth?
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
I have seen 2 different dates in Scotland in my tree, and sent off for both certificates to see which was rigth. They both were!! One was the correct date of marriage in the Parish in which the marriage took place, the other was the date of Banns read in the Parish of the groom!
Hope this helps
Sue
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SCOTLAND: Scotland, Morrison, Bonnella, Third,
LINCOLNSHIRE: Bell, King, Emerson, Leesing, Canty, Cutting, Fox,
GLOUCESTERSHIRE: Antill, Onslow, Crook, Jenkins,
LANCASHIRE: Hall, Mayson, Dearden,
WILTSHIRE: Sloper, King, Willis, Stockwell,
ESSEX: Stone, Webb, Smith, Hawkins, Frye,
SOMERSET: Harrison, Jones,
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Little Nell
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Hi Dorothy,
Thanks for the clarification. 
There are four entries on the IGI FamilySearch site, 3 give the October date and the 4th gives the November date. The one which gives the November date comes from the entries from the parish register - the batch number gives the clue - M119673. This sort of number is for the controlled extraction programme.
The other batch numbers - all figures or Axxxxx - indicate that the entry was submitted by a member of the LDS church and should be used as a guide only. What you may be seeing is a record of the proclamations of marriage (similar to the reading of the banns on England) rather than the marriage itself. Such proclamations were usually recorded in each spouse's parish. The earlier date may be the proclamation and the second one the actual date of marriage.
Before you claim the 1806 birth as the Robert who married in 1820, do you have some sort of proof that the two are the same person? Until you find something to confirm it, you may need to look around for other possible birth dates.
Nell
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safarina
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2nd part
Robert WHITE (Nicol) b. Jul 10, 1855 and Jane SCOTT b. Jan 13, 1871
m. Nov 7, 1890. Children all born in Govan. (6 of 14 died young)
Robert used WHITE as his surname after he ran away at 15yrs old.
1st Henry died in childbirth
1st William died in childbirth
Robert White b. Sep 9, 1891
Janet White b. Nov 1, 1893
Annie White b. 1894/95
Henry Ramsay Nicol White b. Jun 27, 1898
Jane/Jean White b. Apr 18, 1900
Margaret White b. Apr 19, 1901
William Scott White b. Jul 10, 1902
Maggie Ramsay Nicol White Dec 3, 1905
Archibald White
Christina White b. Dec 17, 1908
John White b. Aug 22, 1908
Robert John White b. Aug 21, 1910
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